Edit: Jesus Christ, people. If you buy a $150 Thinkpad made by slave labor instead of a $1,200 MacBook made by slave labor, you're still supporting a capitalist economy based on slave labor. We all do. We have no choice. The number of smug liberals in the comments saying "well I buy a cheap used laptop" or "well I buy coffee beans and make my own coffee" are completely missing the fucking point.
Don't tell yourself your consumption is moral. All of us make unethical choices every day because there is no ethical consumption under capitalism. Accept your shame and guilt and let it drive you to do better.
Imagine owning a laptop that you can't replace ram or the ssd of.
What's nice about apple is that they use high enough quality components that it lasts awhile. I'm the kind of guy to drive a Honda until it's just about dead before buying another. I bought my MacBook pro in I think 2011 (maybe 2013, I can't remember). It still runs fine. The battery is not worth much, maybe 30 minutes. But I have no real reason to replace it. Everything is fine. Compared to when I had cheap laptops before, I think I went through 3 in a span of 6 years.
I'm guessing the key here is getting a laptop with high quality components that isn't apple, but I don't know which ones are actually good, and which are just artificially expensive laptops. Reviews don't help too much either because so many are fake, and also that I don't think many people keep their laptops 10+ years to compare longevity. I will probably go buy another apple when mine finally dies.
The nerds seem to love ThinkPads
Imagine owning a laptop that's too bulky to be comfortable anywhere but a desk
One of the places I worked had a nice little Thinkpad that was light AF and even had a touchscreen. You could still replace the SSD and RAM without tools. It also was durable as hell.
There is no reason for parts in an Apple computer to be soldered other than planned obsolescence and making it impossible to repair.
I bet it also cost significantly more than a MacBook Air too, but my comment wasn't even in defense of Apple. It was a general statement until this point.
Ultralight laptops exist outside of Apple, you know that right?
And you also can't usually replace their ram or SSD. Wild how I didn't even mention Apple in my comment but apparently that's the only laptop you think is light that you can't replace the ram and SSD in.
Then find one that does. "most of them" isn't an excuse.
And I would wager that the vast majority of people have no idea how to upgrade RAM or change an SSD, and many would be afraid to even attempt it, so weight is of much bigger importance to them.
Computer repair stores exist, but I suspect Apple users wouldn't know this, as all Apple has are sales people telling you to buy a new one or spend the price of a new one to get whatever fixed or upgraded (which isn't actually an option).
Why would someone pay to repair a computer they don't think is broken? Just because you understand what more ram and a bigger drive mean doesn't mean the average person does.
And who's fault is that? Companies who make things that can't be upgraded or repaired, so people don't know it's an option.
Do people not know or is having something lightweight more important to them?
Why do you care so much what other people choose to spend their money on?
I don't care, but those attitudes and habits, and the bullshit you're defending has a real effect on something I do care about. The environment. But you do you.
https://globalewaste.org/
https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/world-losing-battle-against-electronic-waste-un-finds-2024-03-20/
And replacing old RAM and old drives wouldn't also create a lot of waste?
Exactly what percentage of the waste generated today is Macbooks?
It would reduce the amount of waste greatly, so would repairable products. And I guess enough of it is Apple for them to be a trillion dollar business.
You ride that apple d hard, damn.
I'm sure you think insulting me will make me a huge fan of Apple rather than someone who understands why people buy them, but I'm afraid it won't work. Sorry. You can't wish someone into who you want them to be.
That.. Made no sense. But shirking personal responsibility to be conscious of the effects of your product choices due to convenience seems to be pretty common.
Like I said, you do you.
I make more educated choices where I can because I actually care about the damage these things do and I'd prefer not to live in a rubbish dump.
No, what makes no sense is you insulting me for being some big champion of Apple when I'm not.
You keep defending them, the modern pioneer of planned obsolescence, the company that deliberately works to make their products unrepairable. I'm amazed they didn't invent the disposable vape.
Nope, I keep explaining why people are buying their products. It's not my fault you are taking my explanation of what other people do personally enough to make up lies about me and use them as insults.
👍🏼 I'm going to go enjoy my Sunday now.
It's often hard to judge the level of privilege someone has but today you've made it real easy.
Go fuck yourself with that shit. There's plenty of laptops that aren't bulky and aren't Apple products, but not that many that aren't bulky, aren't Apple products, have self-replaceable parts, and are affordable.