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Hello everyone.

Well, I’m here to ask for your insights and knowledge.

I have been self-hosting for almost a year already. Mainly proving things like Jellyfin, jellyseer and all the ARRs. All of this with a modest Raspberry Pi 4b using DietPi OS (which I think is great!)

Now, I want to move to the next stage, acquiring a more powerful machine.

What do you recommend for:

A) Mini PC. I want it to fast and with a huge storage (being able to increase it easily) B) SSD or HDD. Which ones. C) Operative System. I would like to stay on Linux.

Any other recommendations?

Finally, I have an adjusted budget, but pretend to save a bit more to have something nice :)

Thanks!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

A) I've seen a lot of people recommending NUC100 computers, but the sata ports may be limited. I currently have my old computer doing the thing (an i5 6500) with Unraid OS, really happy with it BUT they are changing their paying model this week so I don't know I would have went this way. I don't like subscription models.

B) Why not both? I have two SSD of 512Gb for items currently downloading and two HDD for Capacity (each 8Tb) already 30% filled in 1month. Both set of hard drives are set in duplication mode to avoid losing any day.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The n100 mini PCs are a fantastic choice for hosting media server software primarily because of its transcoding capabilities.

The i5-6500 you have and the N100 perform very similarly with general compute tasks (though the TDW of the n100 is 6W vs 65W for the same performance). However, the N100 comes with the full Alder Lake Quick Sync engine compared to the Skylake engine on to i5-6500. If you review the hardware encode/decode table here, you can see Skylake HW encode/decode caps out at 8-bit HEVC (HDR 4K content is typically 10 or 12-bit HEVC), whereas the N100 supports even very recent codecs like 10-bit AV1. I recently set up Plex on a N100 mini PC I got for $150 (with 8gb RAM and 256gb NVMe drive included), and it was able to simultaneously do 2x 4K HDR transcodes with tone mapping while also doing a full library scan and credits detection. Of course, if you're picky about what clients are watching your content to ensure they always watch original quality, you may not need to transcode.

That said, the N100 mini PC I purchased only has slots for 1 NVMe drive and one 2.5" SATA drive. In my case this was perfect because all my media is on a NAS which the N100 now access using a NFS mount, and I can easily back up the minimum persistent data on the N100 PC.

But it sounds like it wouldn't 100% satisfy everything OP is looking for on its own. If they still wanted a N100 for the transcode capabilities, they may be able to use a USB HDD hardware enclosure to add additional storage capabilities without needing a separate system, but because I already had a NAS for my dedicated storage, it isn't something I looked into with detail.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Just found this N100 as NAS looks good.

IPC N100 The same on Aliexpress

My I5 is around 25$ by year, so it would need to run for 10 years to break even with the cost of the motherboard alone.

But that's incredible what they were able to do for low energy/compute.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Indeed. Sounds like in your case the i5 6500 you have is already suiting your needs, so really no need for more expense. For someone who doesn't have something like that already though and needs to make a purchase, I've come around to generally recommending something like the n100 over a used older-generation processor simply because they cost very similar prices, but I feel you get a bit more with the more recent chips due to the modern HW encode/decode and low power use.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Totally agree with you 👍

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I was looking into Unraid OS, and it seems nice, and as you, I want to keep far away from subscriptions as much as possible.

My doubt with HDD is their speed, high noise and energy consumption.

Thanks for answering.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Dont worry about speed, HDD is fine for media storage. Power consumption and noise is what you should worry about 😉 get small SSD for OS since they are cheap

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yeah, but it's the storage capacity that is interesting. If you don't need a lot of storage, go to the NVME/SSD option for sure. If you need more, price/capacity is still on the HDD side.