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"A strong signal to China": Model of the "Pillar of Shame," a memorial to the victims of the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre, was unveiled outside the European Parliament in Brussels (edition.cnn.com)

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Depicting a heap of contorted bodies and screaming faces, the statue was unveiled Tuesday as part of an exhibition of “forbidden art” that organizers said had been censored or “deemed subversive” by Hong Kong and mainland China.

The exhibition was hosted by Jens Galschiøt, the Danish artist behind the famous sculpture, and Kira Marie Peter-Hansen, a member of the European Parliament (MEP). A further six MEPs, including representatives from each of the parliament’s five largest political coalitions, were listed as co-hosts.

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[+] [email protected] -108 points 8 months ago (7 children)

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What would you think about a person asking for the inclusion of some injured/killed KZ guards in a Holocaust memorial? Just asking because that's about what we think about you

[–] [email protected] 57 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wikipedia says, with six sources,

The vast majority of those killed were civilians, though a small number of soldiers were also killed.

You attempt to make it sound like it was anything but a massive inhuman massacre by an oppressive regime. But it wasn't.

You want it to have the oppressors and murderers names when it doesn't even have the victims names?

As a memorial you could have included the soldier deaths in the memorials remembrance too, but you didn't.

People are still oppressed and silenced today. Not being allowed to remember the victims.

What do you want it to be? A memorial for what? In what way?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So... Your honest stance is that "security personnel" who fired automatic weapons into defenseless, non-violent crowds should be memorialized because a handful of them were killed in the ensuing chaos?

How about this one: If someone is charging you with a machete, you should just stand still so you don't accidentally hurt them defending yourself? Or are you saying that if you both die, you should both have your pictures and caskets side by side at the memorial service?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Your honest stance is that

No. You missed my point, and the overall spirit of my comment.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I saw your "liberationschool" link about this topic in a previous comment.

That same website is heavily pro-Russian in the Ukraine war discussion, and it's already trying to re-write events that we've witnessed in the last couple years.

You're just trying to spread propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago

@branchial

Tiananmen Square: What happened in the protests of 1989?

No-one knows for sure how many people were killed.

At the end of June 1989, the Chinese government said 200 civilians and several dozen security personnel had died.

Other estimates have ranged from hundreds to many thousands.

In 2017, newly released UK documents revealed that a diplomatic cable from then British Ambassador to China, Sir Alan Donald, had said that 10,000 had died.

Discussion of the events that took place in Tiananmen Square is highly sensitive in China.

Posts relating to the massacres are regularly removed from the internet, tightly controlled by the government.

So, for a younger generation who didn't live through the protests, there is little awareness about what happened.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

Basic guide:

The oppressed have been killing oppressors? Quite cool actually.
The oppressors have been doing anything? Not cool.
The oppressors are killing the oppressed? Absolutely not cool.

You see?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

No but I'm sure you could get people to organize a party to celebrate those war criminals dying. I did that when Kissinger finally shit himself to death!