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Facebook turns over mother and daughter’s chat history to police resulting in abortion charges
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this post was submitted on 09 Jul 2023
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But why is that a choice society makes for her body? I have asked that elsewhere but never get an answer from people who feel women should be forced to childbirth at a certain point: do you think people should be forced to donate organs?
I don't know why you are bringing up forced childbirth. I already said I was pro choice, and I am even antinatalist.
She made the choice to not abort until 7 months. Thats the problem here. At a certain point the fetus is considered a human and you cross the line into murder. Medical science has determined that point to be around 5- 6 months. I believe women should have every right to abort before the point the fetus is considered conscious.
When someone is pregnant, at a certain point they have made a human, and you cant just get rid of it like that. There are other options like adoption at that point. I don't know why you can't see the nuance here.
It is still forced childbirth, obviously, because what else are you suggesting? You think after a certain point in pregnancy a woman should have to birth the child so others can adopt it. After a certain point you think the woman loses the right to chose for her own and now society has the right to dictate that she has to continue being pregnant and birth the child. I think it is important to fully realize that this is the consequence of your reasoning.
Okay well once you have created a human it is no longer a choice to kill it. Yes you are forced to give birth to a child at that point due to not getting an abortion before you created a human. Why don't we allow abortions up to 2 years? There's not a big difference between a 7month old fetus and a 2 year old.
Okay well once you have created a human it is no longer a choice to kill it. Yes you are forced to give birth to a child at that point due to not getting an abortion before you created a human. Why don't we allow parents to kill their kids up to 2 years? There's not a big difference between a 7month old fetus and a 2 year old.
Maybe you feel like because the mother made the human it's her property and she can do whatever she wants with it? Big old atheist me, and the rest of the old don't see it that way. Once a human is fully formed, that human has its own right to life. The mother doesn't own it like property, it's a human being at that point with its own rights like you and me.
Then I guess you are for forced organ donations as well.