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Britain, do you really want to compare appliances?
I could put most of your fridges in my fridge.
I could put the whole bayuex tapestry in my washing machine.
I don't even know if y'all can fit scrooge's Christmas bird in your ovens.
I'm kidding around but the one thing y'all definitely have is better kettles that's for damn sure.
Are the things you listed supposed to be positives? It's so weird to me that Americans like everything to be gigantic.
My parents were like that when I was a kid, always going for the heavier, bigger and uglier option.
Taught me to value minimalism and compactness the painful way.
Yes, I'd like to be able to keep a longer run of groceries on hand. I'd like to be able.to wash curtains or duvets. I'd like to be able to easily cook the main course of a popular holiday.
I have a 20 minute drive to a grocery that has everything I need, so I want to do it less frequently. I use my duvet every night so it needs to be cleaned weekly.
Appliances are to do things. I want to do more things more easily.
Fridges store food. I don't want my appetite to dictate the size of my fridge, but the freshness of vegetables and such.
Washing machines wash things. I want to be able to wash all the things I regularly use without any loss of performance.
You can't tell me, that all things being equal, you'd prefer a smaller washer. Or that you want to think / guess about the available space in your fridge if you're at the store and looking at a purchase at the grocery. "Hmm I want this for a meal, but I don't think I have space for it" is not and ideal statement.
Americans need giant fridges because their city planners suck at their jobs.
No, america is fucking big.
You would not build a rail/bus/hovercar between me and the grocery, even with europlanners.
Ultimately this does not address my later point: I never worry about if I have space to house a food item I want. When I lived in the UK, in a detached house with a "normal" kitchen, I often thought about the available space at home, while I'm standing in the store. That's silly.
Lastly, in many densely populated areas (like Manhattan) you still get full sized fridges, so your euro-density-pubtransit argument again fails.
Many folks absolutely could walk/bike/train to a grocery, but you can be sure they have full sized fridges 99% of the time.
You shouldn't need to catch the train to get to the grocery store. There should be one walking distance from your house. American city planners don't allow grocery stores to be built in residential zones because they're bad at their jobs.
There's no grocery store by my house because there's only 10 other houses by my house. Lol you have no clue what you're talking about.
America is big and Europe is old.
The city planners put your house in the wrong place.
It's not a city you silly goose.
I sought this house, and I'm hardly "remote".
Are you really suggesting someone dictate where I live? This isn't a communist country with worker housing.
I think it's just a difference between European countries with good government and the rest of the world in the way big industrial areas were repurposed after industrial production moved to other parts of the world. In the last 30-40 years.
They may expect a good modern city to look like some old-old districts formed in the times where traveling far for groceries wasn't an option, surrounded by those big repurposed areas with regular planning and a lot of modern bright shiny stuff on the place of old factories, warehouses etc, and with good public transport.
I'm not contesting that eu planning is strong. Their urban areas and even suburban areas are very well connected.
But they are tiny.
That's the problem - I only have to walk 5 minutes for my groceries. There's really no need to stock up on anything.
But then you are dependant on an errand several times per week
Do you just sit at home all the time? I just go to the shop when I'm returning home - pop in for a few minutes and continue on my way. Errands, lol.
I always found the concept of spending a day running errands weird and see many TV shows mention this. I guess it's a 20 minute drive to everything.
Making better kettles is easier when your entire electric grid is optimised for it.
Seriously, 220 volts will just always get you a faster boil than 120. It's physics.
We have 240 in kitchens but don't use it for counter top stuff
We have 400V/16A, three phases, in kitchens for the proper stuff. That's 19kW, if I remember correctly. Your strong power is like our standard power (240V/16A).
Here in the UK you can have 240V x 32A with three phases. That's how you get domestic 22kW chargers for EVs, lol. Regular single phase kitchen wiring is 240V x 32A giving us 7kW hobs.
And it’s 2 phase
With our standard 240/16A you'd get 11'000 W, that water will boil itself just thinking about that much power
Also, it uses much less copper, and there are fewer resistance losses
Most kettles in the UK are 3,000W.
It just tells us that you're obese.
No, it doesn't.
Having a small fridge and going to the grocery very often vs having a large fridge and going less frequently tells you nothing about calories consumed.