this post was submitted on 09 Jul 2023
76 points (96.3% liked)
Europe
8324 readers
1 users here now
News/Interesting Stories/Beautiful Pictures from Europe πͺπΊ
(Current banner: Thunder mountain, Germany, π©πͺ ) Feel free to post submissions for banner pictures
Rules
(This list is obviously incomplete, but it will get expanded when necessary)
- Be nice to each other (e.g. No direct insults against each other);
- No racism, antisemitism, dehumanisation of minorities or glorification of National Socialism allowed;
- No posts linking to mis-information funded by foreign states or billionaires.
Also check out [email protected]
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Oh boy, this bogus article again.
Yes, train is cheaper than plane if you tack on an extra hotel night for no reason.
There's no difference between leaving on a Friday night and arriving on a Saturday morning by night train, and leaving on a Saturday morning and arriving on the same morning by plane.
Add to this that sleepover trains aren't available for the vast majority of destinations in Europe, and this article feels more and more like an ad paid for by the companies, which basically represent the entirety of the sleeper train option.
Addendum : I love the "a family of 4 saves Β£94, vut an even larger family could save up to Β£300!" part. Yes, if I took my entire extended family with me, we could even save over a grand on the trip !
"Youβre also less likely to get stranded by a last-minute flight cancellation or lengthy delay - a nightmare that can destroy the most meticulously-planned holiday." Ah yes, the train, a mean of transportation that is notoriously known for it's reliability and lack of delay.
You want a cheap, low-impact holiday transportation? Coaches will get you across Europe for actually cheaper than planes, no ifs or buts, and aren't too polluting as long as they're full (also, trains are only "clean" transportation as long as they run on electricity and said electricity isn't produced by burning coal or oil)
I disagree. I can take a train from my home station, and arrive in the city center. For the Airport I have to drive there ~1h, 1,5h Buffer, 1h Flight, 1h Transfer back to the city. So the train is faster for every trip that's shorter than 4,5 hours. Also not polluting the environment needlessly is also a big bonus for the train. Even if trains run on coal they pollute vastly less than Planes.
But can you fly from your homestation to the city center? Would anybody want to? I don't understand your comment.
Where do you live, that your city center is so far away that a 1 hour trip by car doesnt get you to your destination?
??? We are talking about Plane vs Train? Or you don't know Europe? Most Cities don't have an Airport less than 60 Minutes away
Were you gonna take the train to the airport? And then fly? And then take the train?
No, take the train to my destination
I am still lost. From where to where are we travelling? Sure, i can also take a train from my home station to the city center. if i wanted to go to a different country i would have to go to center, take a train from there and that one then has mutliple connecting trains as europe is not well connected. one of them is too late? well, now youre waiting. stranded for hours. I need 6 hours to go from Hamburg to France and then another Hour or more to get into a city center there.
Plane is 2 Hours plus waiting, boarding and driving to the airport. Which is 45 Minutes away. 30 by car
Still there is no proof that Europe's Railways are badly connected. The network they offer is still way more dense than the Airport network, even if you only look at long distance trains. When I want to go to Paris I can take a train that takes 3 hours, or I can drive 1 hour to the Airport, plan 1,5 hours buffer, fly some minutes, land, and need to drive back 1 hour. (Also easyJet & co close boarding 30 Minutes before departure, and you need to calculate some time for security and baggage drop off). Total flight time is usually much longer than many think. Eurostar is also faster than flying between London and Paris/Brussels
If i lived in a different city than now, i would have to take a train just to get to a place that goes to a neighboring country. Where do you live that all cities are directly connected to france? Switzerland? Belgium?
Southwest Germany