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In a surprise move, an Illinois judge has removed former President Donald Trump from the state’s ballot based on the 14th Amendment’s so-called “insurrectionist ban.”

The decision is paused, giving Trump a short period of time to appeal.

Wednesday’s unexpected decision comes as a similar anti-Trump challenge from Colorado is pending before the US Supreme Court, which is widely expected to reject arguments that Trump is barred from office.

Cook County Circuit Judge Tracie Porter heavily relied on the prior finding by the Colorado Supreme Court, calling Colorado’s “rationale compelling.”

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

Hoo boy. January 6th-21st 2025 is going to be harrowing in DC should Trump win.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I suspect it will be harrowing when he loses too. It was last time.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

At least this time he is not in charge, so it should be a lot harder to try pushing people around to subvert democracy

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hopefully harder to push around government types, I agree. But at the same time, easier to summon and unleash his mob without restraint. At that point, what else can he possibly lose?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

All his supporters are gonna get killed, just like last time these dumb fucks started a civil war.

Nazis and fascists need to be eradicated every few decades.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Gonna be the least of your worries unless you live in DC. Look forward to armed take overs at every state capital and military deployments across the country (with help from our great friends in the Russian military), and murdered Democrats on every street corner should Trump win.

It will be worse than that probably

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

If you truly believe this you should be training with firearms. Go far enough left and you get your guns back

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The military owes allegiance to the constitution not the president.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

In theory a lot of things should be true.

But you're talking about a career criminal who committed crimes as president and half the country is going to vote for him to be president again.. so tell me you honestly don't think that it's going to happen

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The military may have its problems but if you talk to anyone in a serious leadership position in the military they're very clearly tell you that they will support whoever is the person that is freely elected and if that is subverted it is their duty to fix it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

There's some hope, but I suggest we expect the worst and prepare for it. Not because I'm some crazy tinfoil idiot .. because of the long trail of "That will never happen"'s that have happened.

I legitimately think your average soldier is generally a higher educated and better critical thinker than the fifty percent of America below the average ..

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Shipmates I've talked to in the Navy, at least, would not obey any such unlawful orders. As an active duty submariner, in accordance with my oath and creed, neither would I.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

He told the cia to get fucked I dony think they will support him.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You think that will only be the case if he wins?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

He’s not doing s as well as hoped in primaries. If his base is taking notice, he has little chance with the general populace.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

a lot of cry babies we have in America yup no doubt! like Dump