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Yeah, but that's not what /u/laxnover was advertising
The original question was about the use of these two services. I answered their question and provided a link. I’m sorry that you took that as advertising, but the OP was asking for the basics. There are more productive ways of responding than immediately attacking, though, that would have helped get your point across. For example, providing links to things like Headscale or Netmaker to help your point about not using a third party service.