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I know the topic of whether adblock is piracy is debated, but I am guessing there are a lot of adblock users here and I was wondering if anyone has seen the youtube adblock warning message in the wild. I use ublock origin and still haven't seen it once.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you use uBlock origin you would never see it. I use both PiHole + uBlock origin and I would never see it lmao.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pihole does nothing on YouTube as their ads are served on the save server as the videos.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know, but they help with the ads on the website itself. Not the videos.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

But you have ublock? It's just redundant at that point.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pihole works wonders for mobile apps in general. Especially games. Ublock and pihole are similar but different enough to use both. Yes, ublock is overall better for browsers. But for network wide coverage, including smart TV'S, mobile apps, iot stuff like ring cameras etc.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree with this since I myself use PiHole, but it is redundant on a browser which uses ublock - and that was my original point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Piehole would be the “whole house/device” Adblock protection. Ublock is the one device Adblock. Fair to use both in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What? PiHole doesn’t block YouTube ads yet. It’s needed. Having two Adblock’s isn’t a problem either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s needed.

no it's not. It's convenient, but not needed. Same goes for adblockers, they are not needed, but are very convenient.

Having two Adblock’s isn’t a problem either.

Yes it is. Is there any advantage to having 4 different adblock extensions on your browser? No, it only increases the attack surface to your browser. PiHole is useful for everything but web browsing since you can use an adblocker, such as ublock origin.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It would help on other websites and on some in-app ads from mobile devices

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes but on the same browser it is redundant.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Redundancies being a bad thing is a very capitalist point of view.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

In a capitalist POV, redundancy is just unneeded cost for things that are "not needed".

In an engineering POV redundancy is insurance to make sure things work as needed even when part of the system fails.

For example, Apollo flight computers were triple redundant, and the outputs from all three were compared before being fed into engines. If two outputs would be 0.98, but one was 0.12, it's most likely that the third one is wrong and should be discarded. This makes it very likely that correct control intput is given to the engines all times and the whole thing would not crash and burn because of a random bit flip.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

uBlock is NOT redundant as many ads today are not served from 3rd party domains. PiHole is redundant as it doesn't do crap.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

do you realise that ublock origin blocks ads from remote domains right? Enable "I am an advanced user" and be shocked to see how many external resources it allows and blocks.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Did you even read my comment?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think the main issue of your comment was that you may be mistaking what redundant means.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Did you read mine? Like how fucking stupid are you to just regurgitate my exact point.

But you have ublock? [PiHole] is redundant at that point

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you know that? I’m fairly certain that google can tell if they have served you an ad, and cutting off access to their streaming services seems like a straightforward thing from their point of view. How could ublock (or anything) prevent google from blocking the stream? It’s not about blocking ads, or blocking messages to turn your adblocker off. It’s about google acknowledging that they haven’t served you an ad. You can’t force them to serve a video, I don’t think.

This “feature” is being rolled out slowly, which probably means they are taking lots of telemetry about how users try to circumvent this. It also means that just because you or I haven’t seen it does not mean we are safe against it. I’m not saying there is no solution, but I don’t think the solution is an adblocker or a sinkhole.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Interesting! So if I'm understanding correctly, the scare about YouTube stopping adblocked users was being caused by the Enhancer for Youtube extension? If so, that's a relief.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Uhhhhh not quite, the fact that we're probably not going to see the "stop blocking ads plz" message doesn't mean that Youtube can't block access to their website with an adblocker. It's entirely possible, there are websites that already do it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not really. The “Enhancer for YouTube” was causing problem with the YouTube anti-block to show up. So disabling what effectively allowed uBlock to block those anti-Adblock notices. I think they now fixed the issues with “Enhancer for YouTube” extension.