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Tumblr and Wordpress to Sell Users’ Data to Train AI Tools (www.404media.co)

submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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this could not be timed worse for Tumblr which is in huge hot water with its userbase already for its CEO breaking his sabbatical to ban a prominent trans user for allegedly threatening him (in a cartoonish manner), and then spending a week personally justifying it increasingly wildly across several platforms. the rumors had already been swirling that this would occur, but this just cements that they were correct

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You must be kidding. You surely haven't heard about Fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Are you serious? We're speaking in the Fediverse right now. It's notable in its difference. Though instances have their own TOSes, so it'd be pretty trivial to set one up to harvest content for AI training as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What I meant is that the data generally belong to the user on Fediverse, and your original comment ignored that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A user's data still belongs to the user when they post it on sites like Reddit and such, too. The ToS doesn't take ownership away from them, at least not in any case that I've seen. It just gives the site the license to use it as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, even if that's tue, I don't count it as "ownership" if they change the monetization scheme for what I wrote, without giving me a good chance to say what I get in return. Reddit even allegedly put back comments which users deleted.

It's near-impossible to delete all my own comments on Reddit, for example.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's true, go ahead and read the ToS. It only grants a license to Reddit to use your content. It explicitly says:

You retain any ownership rights you have in Your Content, but you grant Reddit the following license to use that Content:

And then goes on to enumerate what you're licensing them to do with it. There's also a section titled "Changes to these Terms" about how they can change the ToS going forward.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

And it doesn't change what I wrote.