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"But my friend runs a PinePhone as a daily driver" (lemmy.ml)

submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago (3 children)

"Android is already a Linux phone" They hated Jesus because he told them the truth.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (2 children)

But it isn't GNU/Linux https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/android-and-users-freedom.html

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago

... or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yes, but it is Linux. OP doesn't mention GNU.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That's like saying you run FreeBSD because you have a PlayStation 5 though.

It's so far removed people associate it as something different entirely.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

It uses an ancient Linux kernel with millions of lines of code changed from the original.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Android devices run deprecated Linux kernels that have a bunch of proprietary binary blobs plopped onto them, so technically "Linux", but not an easily updateable mainline kernel like most people are referring to when talking about "Linux."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

OK then call it what it is. You want a FOSS Linux phone.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Linux is FOSS. Android is based on Linux. Android is not Linux.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Uh you know that Debian isn't just Linux either right? It's based on Linux. The same way that Android is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Debian is GNU/Linux and that's what almost always people mean when they say Linux. Android is not GNU/Linux and doesn't even use the mainline Linux kernel - just some old, heavily modified version.

Mobian or Manjaro ARM on the other hand are GNU/Linux distributions. They run the same software that you can run on your desktop distro.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Moving the goalposts. We weren't talking about GNU. Not all Linux distributions use GNU.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not all Linux distributions use GNU.

Almost all popular ones do.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

lol so now popularity matters?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Not in the way they're talking.