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Those famous branches of a nation's government, Google and Meta.
The nation of Narnia.
If you are trying to imply that Google of all companies is NOT an arm of the US government, I’m sorry to say but you are so wrong.
Google was founded by CIA venture capital money. They’ve had massive contracts with the US government since they began.
I'm sorry...
You think Larry Page, Scott Hassan and Sergey Brin worked for the CIA while also completing their degrees at Stanford and because of that they started one of multiple competing search engines with some diabolical plan to use internet voodoo to kill all the competition? If the CIA has those sort of magical powers, we're doomed.
Also, having massive government contracts doesn't mean you're an arm of the government.
Kraft has massive government contracts. You know, the cheese people?
Also- a big difference between Google and the Chinese Government? No one is forced to use Google and there are plenty of alternatives you can use without getting in any sort of legal jeopardy.
I never said they worked for the CIA. But Larry Page and Sergey Brin do have lots of contacts inside of the government (and had them when they started Google out).
And this isn’t secret information at all… https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/how-the-cia-made-google-e836451a959e
And I love how you try to imply that having massive government defense and intelligence contracts means absolutely nothing.
When did I imply any such thing? Do you think the only two options are 'exactly the same level of government surveillance as China' or 'absolutely nothing?'
Again- you do not have to use Google. Ever. No one is forcing you to use Google. It is not a requirement. The Chinese Government makes laws and has the power of life and death over its citizens.
Do you really not understand the difference?
As far as the article you provided, the author of it is a conspiracy-monger.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nafeez_Ahmed#Controversies
It makes absolutely no sense for the CIA to have made Google because when Google was created, it was assumed either Yahoo or Lycos would gain supremacy. So, again, unless they used some sort of internet voodoo to be able to see the future and know Google would win over those two, it's a nonsensical conspiracy theory.
Yeah no, the spectrum of surveillance is “US private and government intelligence agencies <- the rest of the five eyes -> nothing”. It’s not a dichotomy, it’s a spectrum.
And that Wikipedia (🤮) article basically has way stronger arguments FOR Ahmed than against him lol not sure what you thought that did. Just because he has a “controversies” section? Did you even read it?
I'm sorry... are you now claiming that China has no government surveillance at all?
No I’d put them around the middle or a bit more towards the left. I don’t know where you got that I said that lol
I got it from where you said:
The five eyes are Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States.
In other words...
The spectrum of surveillance (according to you) is "US private and government intelligence agencies <- Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom -> nothing"
The only place I can see China fitting in to what you said is "nothing" since it isn't any of the five countries that you have counted.
I built the spectrum how I wanted to. I didn’t include China on the spectrum cause I feel that’s silly. The world is currently dominated by the US Empire. I don’t care about the anti-imperialist forces. I care about the Empire.
This article is literally about China spying on its people. And on your spectrum, it is 'nothing' in terms of spying on its people.
And you still seem to be saying that China doesn't do that. And that would be what is silly.