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[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The conclusion doesn't follow the study.

Threatening messages decrease piracy by women by over 50%, while increasing piracy by men by 18%.

So, unless there are three times as many male pirates as female, those messages are effective at reducing piracy.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I would suspect there are many times more male pirates than female.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Because of the technical skill required for pirating and the tech industry being mostly men currently.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

My wife set up an ARR stack, because she didn't like downloading individual episodes. It's not that hard.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The point is that your wife is in the minority. The vast majority of people wouldn't consider torrenting, let alone *arrs. People with a greater willingness to tinker and learn technical stuff are the ones who'll consider it, and that group is overwhelmingly composed of men as of right now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm seeing 3:1 male female from this source, but I figure data collection on torrent users is tricky: https://marketsplash.com/torrent-statistics/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Anecdotally, that makes sense. If you were to look at piracy overall, however, I wouldn't be surprised if that ratio was closer to 50/50.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Result of gender stereotypes affecting the behaviour of female and male children, so male children grow up to be more encouraged to learn about technology and engage in risk taking behaviour.

Also inclination to risk taking behaviour is much higher in biological men than biological women, which would also give a potential reason why this advertisment works on women but not on men.

As always these attributions only represent the average of the women and men populations as a whole. Ofc. there is risk averse men and tech savvy women.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

The word cis or cisgender is right there my friend. Trans people are still biological, after all.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

So, unless there are three times as many male pirates as female, those messages are effective at reducing piracy.

That would not surprise me at all.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

If I put the over/under at 10x male pirate to female, are you taking the under?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Bittorrent is also only a portion of pirating, but that's showing 3:1 globally, https://marketsplash.com/torrent-statistics/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Complete garbage website. Tons of conflicting info, suppositions, and when you bother to look at the sources, their claims quickly fall apart. For example,

In 2022, pirate website visits hit a record of 215 billion.9

-9. "Average Teenager's iPod Has 800 Illegal Music Tracks" by The Times - written June 2008

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I agree, but I haven't been able to find a lot of good studies past about 2005; and a lot has changed since then.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

46% of pirates in the UK were women in 2018.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

University of Amsterdam Institute for Information Law, indirectly sourced from here: https://dataprot.net/statistics/piracy-statistics/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I guess we'll just have to take their word for it since they don't actually link to anything or provide the data. In fact, that whole statement doesn't even appear to be attributed to the University of Amsterdam. It appears the preceding statement about 25-34 year olds pirating is what's attributed to the university.