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Murder victim Kelly Wilkinson repeatedly visited police in fear. They said she was ‘cop shopping’
(www.theguardian.com)
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The article is about things that happened in Australia 🙄
And Australians have had massive incursions on their gun rights since 2020.
@GhostedIC
That's because we don't see using a gun as a right, just like we don’t see driving a car as a right. They're both activities that are priviledges earned through training and licensing.
@frostysauce
And as a result the number of school shootings is much, much lower than in the US.
Exactly, I bet her loved ones wished she had the right tools to defend herself. Lord knows the police won’t.
Eew keep your gross American opinions to yourself.
No, the 1A means I can share it as much as I want. Freedom of Speech is awesome!
The irony of you tooting about 1A, celebrating your “right” to free speech, based on your ability to post something in a forum where 1A doesn’t apply.
It’s delicious.
Well if you want seconds, I’m still posting.
Offtopic: so these quotes mean you doubt that it is a right too?
1A doesn't apply for what mods do, but it seems mods agree that his opinion belongs here.
1A does apply for him not being prosecuted for saying it anywhere. BTW, things like swatting gun rights' supporters' homes do in effect break 1A.
So there's a valid combination where there's nothing "delicious" in your meaning in his comment - that's if he meant that people in some other countries are more reserved with their opinions online because of fear of being flagged by police. I'd say it has some merit - slippery slopes work in reality.
Also I think I've read something about Australia, refugees, detention and human rights activism of the level a bit more sinister than in US.
You make it sound like thats unique to the US and a foreign concept to the rest of the world.
Freedom of speech doesn't mean you won't face consequences of what you say.
Not saying it is unique, just stating my 1A rights mean I have the freedom to do so.
Only in the US, the least developed nation of the rich world.
So free speech that is constitutionally protected is a sign of an underdeveloped nation? Weird viewpoint but ok you do you.
The US is the only country with a flag on the moon, from where I live I can watch weekly launches into space. Europe depends upon us for manned launches. Our military is also more advanced than any other nation and is globally dominant which reinforces our hegemony.
We are one of the largest energy exporters (which hopefully Biden will curb, I don’t want the US exporting so much Natural Gas and oil that it drives up our ultra low domestic prices and exposes us to higher over seas rates. Preventing further global warming is a good bonus).
Did I mention that our economy is larger and is growing faster than the EU? Nearly forgot that one… https://statisticstimes.com/economy/united-states-vs-eu-economy.php
Seems like we have a few things going for us.
As an American no one cares, you're a fucking idiot, and just shut the fuck up already.
No, I prefer to keep posting.
And we have the freedom to call you out on your American bullshit (that doesn't even work in the US).
Ok, I appreciate the update. I don’t really take the opinions of foreigners seriously so it’s good to know where you stand.
...if you don't "take the opinions of foreigners seriously", then why would you - a foreigner - share your opinion?
Grab both of your brain cells, and use em to find someone more on your level, okay? And trust me, "more on" is wording I'm sure you're familiar with.
Why would you continue to talk to someone who doesn’t take you seriously?
I'm sorry, my "more on" quip was just... Too good.
There's no way you or I can top it. Good day.
If you are amused by that “quip” then you should try sensory deprivation, you’d be rolling on the floor in no time.
The first amendment applies only to government action on your speech. It has nothing to do with your speech on a private website and it doesn't apply outside of the US (even if you'd like to think the US owns the world).
Yeah buddy I’m still posting. Stifling free speech is never a good solution. Maybe you are intimidated by opposing opinions and need some kind of safe space.
I do not.
wow ur so brave 😍
Oh look, an Australian denying reality in favor of ideology. Shocking.
US has the highest domestic violence / death by gun rates in the entire world.
There is no such thing as good guy with a gun. Look at the victory parade just last week. People with guns everywhere just ran away for their lives instead of shooting the bad guy with the gun they love boasting about.
The worst mass shooting in Canada in history was 12 dead. What's the worst death toll in the US?
The last school shooting in Canada was about 20 years ago, when was the last one in the US?
If this Australian couple had guns, 90% chance she would have been shot and killed by beer husband instead of whatever means he used. The police should have done their jobs.
That is the reality.
The supposed tool to defend herself with would have been used to kill her even sooner.
If you need a gun in order to feel safe in your country, you live in a shithole.
Yeah! Because domestic abuse is totally not a thing in america. Oh wait.
Domestic abuse is a problem in the US. I believe in empowering victims to have every resource available to escape and defend themselves from abusers.
https://gunsafety.ny.gov/domestic-violence