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  • California authorities found a man illegally owning 248 guns and 1 million rounds of ammo.
  • The state attorney general said he also had 3,000 magazines and several grenades in his home.
  • The guns included 11 machine guns, 133 handguns, and 60 assault rifles, authorities said.
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It was a full auto HK UMP, which civilians in the US cannot legally buy or possess in any practical scenario (yes I am aware a SOT could have one for LE demonstration but that’s relatively rare and not what this was).

In other words

In other words... you had to make it clear that the weapon wasn't legal, and even then you had to admit that there were some scenarios where it might be legal.

Here's how that sentence would go in a sane countr:

"It was a gun, and not a hunting gun, so obviously illegal."

When civilians can legally own a whole variety of guns, including guns that look nearly identical to the ones that are illegal, it's a lot easier for people to get their hands on the illegal guns. England doesn't have this problem. Japan doesn't have this problem. Even Canada doesn't have this problem. It's not that there aren't criminals in those places, it's that gun control laws work.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

You're not making the point you think you are. That fringe scenario I described has no statistical significance in terms of crime. It is a special subset of dealers that demonstrate weapons to police customers. I guarantee you England, Canada and Japan also have some process for this, and it doesn't impact their crime rates in any meaningful way either.