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Hi everyone! Since I was absolutely fucked by Skiff (thank fuck I didn’t pay for it) I’m looking for a new email provider :) I’m not sure I like how proton is transforming into a full on suit, I only need email. Any other recommendations or is proton my only choice really?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Proton = No SMTP/IMAP support.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How would they be privacy-centric if they supported SMTP and IMAP?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Both support encryption and Lavabit probably had much higher standards than Proton when it comes to privacy and still supported those open protocols. What Proton is doing is pushing for vendor lock-in at any possible point so you're stuck with what they deem acceptable because it's easier for them to build a service this way and makes more sense from a business / customer retention perspective.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Lavabit probably had much higher standards than Proton

So it's all based on an assumption.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So you assume that Proton won't snitch on you whenever the NSA comes around asking for data?... And I'm sure Lavabit didn't snitch on Snowden.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I don't really care that much about any information like IPs, I care about the actual emails which are encrypted.

There is nothing that indicates that they will snitch since that would be terrible for everyone and also illegal for them to do.

But most importantly lavabit is an American company which is insane for if you care about privacy at all.

Proton also published a transparency report while Lavabit is really opaque.