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It should come as no surprise that the lemmy.ml admin team took about 2 minutes to decide to pre-emptively block threats / Meta. Their transparent and opportunistic scheme to commodify the fediverse and it's users will not be allowed to proceed.
We strongly encourage other instance administrators to do the same, given the grave threat they pose to the fediverse.
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I would say we need a vote if lemmy.world should do the same. I would be for blocking meta.
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Well, why don't we have a Lemmy feature where the individual user can block content and users from an instance? Rather than defederating completely?
I wonder how qualified the average Lemmy user is to participate in this sort of decision. This call to defederate feels a lot like Brexit. Maybe I'm just projecting my own ignorance, but I doubt 1 in 50 people have a more informed opinion than "meta bad".
Honestly, I wonder if that even matters. I'll be the first to admit that I have no deep insight on that matter and that I would simply want to see Meta blocked because it's a privacy-invading, manipulative entity that sucks up all data it can get in order to force-feed people ads and products. Products that contain algorithms that are extremely unhealthy for mental health, as the only thing they care about is "user engagement", which is driven by drama and conflict. You get nothing but information bubbles and prioritized bullshit content that stirrs you up. There is no value in that, it's mostly just harmful. The fediverse apps are being created to offer an alternative to exactly that stuff, and I am here because I want to get away from big tech. If lemmy.world doesn't take a clear stance to separate itself from the likes of Meta, then there is simply no point in using it over any corporate alternative. I honestly expect lemmy.world to follow lemmy.ml in this clear approach, or I'll switch instances. I'm just giiving it some time to come to the right conclusion. But if Meta is being allowed to freely interact here and scoop up everything for their purposes, I'll be on lemmy.ml in about 2 weeks. That's a reasonable time frame to see a discussion unfold and wait for an outcome. Even if blocking Meta won't completely stop them from grabbing data here, it's the right thing to make it harder for them and to send the message that their approach is not wanted here.