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‘Andrew Tate is a symptom, not the problem’: why young men are turning against feminism (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Teachers describe a deterioration in behaviour and attitudes that has proved to be fertile terrain for misogynistic influencers

“As soon as I mention feminism, you can feel the shift in the room; they’re shuffling in their seats.” Mike Nicholson holds workshops with teenage boys about the challenges of impending manhood. Standing up for the sisterhood, it seems, is the last thing on their minds.

When Nicholson says he is a feminist himself, “I can see them look at me, like, ‘I used to like you.’”

Once Nicholson, whose programme is called Progressive Masculinity, unpacks the fact that feminism means equal rights and opportunities for women, many of the boys with whom he works are won over.

“A lot of it is bred from misunderstanding and how the word is smeared,” he says.

But he is battling against what he calls a “dominance-based model” of masculinity. “These old-fashioned, regressive ideas are having a renaissance, through your masculinity influencers – your grifters, like Andrew Tate.”

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So you think the feminist you replied to doesn't care about men's issues?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't presume to speak for any one individual.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You made a sweeping statement about what you think all (or effectively all) feminists believe. Why is asking about what you think a recent, specific person believes, somehow over the line?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because it's easy to know what a movement believes in general, but it's almost impossible to know what a person believes unless you know them very well personally?

Why is it that every time I come on lemmy I end up explaining something so simple it should be self explanatory?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

Because you're wrong a lot, and Dunning-Kruger effect...?