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‘Andrew Tate is a symptom, not the problem’: why young men are turning against feminism (www.theguardian.com)

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Teachers describe a deterioration in behaviour and attitudes that has proved to be fertile terrain for misogynistic influencers

“As soon as I mention feminism, you can feel the shift in the room; they’re shuffling in their seats.” Mike Nicholson holds workshops with teenage boys about the challenges of impending manhood. Standing up for the sisterhood, it seems, is the last thing on their minds.

When Nicholson says he is a feminist himself, “I can see them look at me, like, ‘I used to like you.’”

Once Nicholson, whose programme is called Progressive Masculinity, unpacks the fact that feminism means equal rights and opportunities for women, many of the boys with whom he works are won over.

“A lot of it is bred from misunderstanding and how the word is smeared,” he says.

But he is battling against what he calls a “dominance-based model” of masculinity. “These old-fashioned, regressive ideas are having a renaissance, through your masculinity influencers – your grifters, like Andrew Tate.”

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I grew up without a dad and prefer it to having a shitty dad, which is what most people have.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Most people have shit dads? Really?

I have doubts, but I'm sorry you feel that way.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely. A good father is hard to come by.

A lot of them end up clipping the wings (and foreskins) of their children because their wings (and foreskins) were clipped, too.

These kids then go through life thinking that's how they should treat others if they love them. It creates a lot of confusion that could be assuaged by acknowledging most fathers are shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

While I'm against circumcision (it's genital mutilation, fight me) you are spouting some fucking weird nonsense.