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It should come as no surprise that the lemmy.ml admin team took about 2 minutes to decide to pre-emptively block threats / Meta. Their transparent and opportunistic scheme to commodify the fediverse and it's users will not be allowed to proceed.
We strongly encourage other instance administrators to do the same, given the grave threat they pose to the fediverse.
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Would anything change on Lemmy, even if you federate with Threads?
You follow communities here on Lemmy, while on Threads you follow people. The only way for a Lemmy user to find a Threads user, would be looking for their username directly in the search bar.
In that sense, what does a Lemmy instance gain from defederating with Meta?
I think it's more that users and administrators don't trust Meta, and for good reason. They're driven by profit and have demonstrated repeatedly a blatant disregard for users. They have virtually unlimited resources at their disposal that could be used to potentially harm the fediverse in a number of ways.
Honestly I am confused by this too. If you don't federate with threads doesn't that just make it easier to grow? Personally I am more curious about Mastodon now because if people I follow on twitter move to threads I can just use mastodon and not twitter or threads...
In my personal opinion, Lemmy should be more focused on content rather than RAPID growth.
Growth is usually related to corporations mindset, which is a "for-profit" mindset, and unfortunately, as we seen in the past it, it comes with "by all means" attitude, results in manipulating users, make users addicted, and more actions at the expense of the users.
You'll see that when Lemmy will pile up more content, the community will naturally grow in a healthy manner.
I guess I didn't specify well. What I meant was if Mastodon is an ad free (or at least let ads and more private) alternative to view Threads posts, along with Mastodon posts wouldn't that reduce the number of threads accounts and reduce their growth? So wouldn't defederating actually help draw more people to threads? Plus how would defederating reduce the E/E/E process that everyone is worried about? I would think it would accelerate it or best case have no impact...
Also I think I may have replied to the wrong comment lol
Nothing, it's the same virtue signalling I was sick of seeing on Reddit and it's people celebrating taking away the choice from other users.
These nonstop threads posts has soured my Lemmy experience after a month of being extremely active here.
At this stage it is only virtue signalling - the signal is that the larger lemmy community has no interest in interacting or co-operating with Facebook or other large anti-privacy organisations. It's that simple. You can always join a different server with different values, nobody has taken choice away from you.
Read up on the EEE business strategy. Read up on Cambridge analytica, on the numerous controversies surrounding Facebook enabling extremism.
Corporate power, and especially not this corporation, should not be welcome in the fediverse at large. We have nothing to gain by welcoming them. Facebook is the only one who wins.
And for your last point of mean admins taking your user choice away, this is the fediverse. I’d you don’t like it, make your own instance for corporate bootlickers and federate with them all you want