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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Ok, KDE looks most like Windows 10 to the best of my knowledge, what looks most like Windows 11?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Windows 11, in terms of design changes, seems to draw inspiration from KDE and Gnome.

The Win11 start menu changed and looks more like the KDE Plasma one, albeit centred like the Gnome app grid.

They've switched to rounded corners, like Gnome.

They now use dots to denote pages, like Gnome does all throughout their system.

To me, the overall system in Win11 seems like it's been made more like KDE, but the smaller nuances seem more Gnome-inspired.

Microsoft is no stranger to copying Linux DEs, remember KDE Plasma's motto in 2017? "Simple by default. Powerful when needed."

Compare that to Microsoft's totally not stolen tagline they used to promote 11: "Simple by default. Powerful by choice."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Lol, I use GNOME daily, and I didn't notice the inspiration until now. I think Windows 11 uses a lot more transparency and blur than KDE or GNOME.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

You can add more transparency in KDE. Just not sure it's that needed - I find Windows 11s level of transparency a bit distracting.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

KDE can look like pretty much anything. The default layout is generally Windows like with a lower panel with a menu and task bar to the left and a system tray to the right.

Windows 11s big "innovation" is centring the task bar and start menu. In the latest version of windows 11 you can finally move it back to the left. KDE can already centre both or move to the left and much more. There are also windows 11 global themes in the KDE library, I've not tried them though.

Windows 11 is otherwise not that different from windows 10. KDE already has all the graphical bells and whistles, and has long had a unified settings menu, and has way more flexibility for changing up the layout (it can be Mac like or old gnome like, or gnome 3 like or custom).

A lot of the gnome 2 based WMs are also very flexible - xfce, cinnamon, etc. I've never used Gnome 3 - I assume it's similar?

[–] LeFantome 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The only GNOME 2 desktop environment is MATE.

MATE is a continuation of the GNOME 2 code after GNOME 3 came out. It literally IS GNOME 2 just with a different name.

Cinnamon was also a reaction to GNOME 3 but it is an alternative desktop for GNOME 3 ( and newer ). It is mostly modern GNOME. It was never based on GNOME 2.

The only thing XFCE has in common with GNOME is that they both use GTK. XFCE was originally based on XForms ( the XF in XFCE ). It certainly has nothing to do with GNOME 2.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

XFCE4 keeps adding more and more logind/dbus complexity in every gui they make, that can hardly be built without it. They have made it so systemd-centric it has become hard for systemd-free distributions to support it without hacking it all the time.

The pseudo-systemd-free distros using elogind don't have much problems with it because 90% of systemd functionality is already available,

LXDE as DEs go, is still "clean" with most of it gtk2 or 3 optional

@LeFantome @BananaTrifleViolin

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

On the other hand, jwm doesn't miss out much from MATE, LXDE, and it can tile as well, at a small fraction of the size (disk/ram/cpu).

@LeFantome @BananaTrifleViolin

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Xfce isn't based on GNOME at all and Cinnamon is based on modern GNOME, not GNOME 2. Mate is based on GNOME 2, tho. All of them are very different from modern GNOME, tho.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This is a 10 minute effort but I think you can push this even further to make it look like Windows 11 on KDE

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wow, that's really cool, what did you do?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I installed OnzeMenu and EventCalendar via the settings > add widgets. The Windows 11 theme and Icon on Settings > appearance.

If you right click the KDE menu icon from the taskbar, there is an option show alternatives, pick OnzeMenu from that. Same case goes to the time/date.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That wallpaper is beautiful, could you share the source?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's a default wallpaper on KDE. The name is Safe Landing but to save you the hassle, here you go

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago