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It should come as no surprise that the lemmy.ml admin team took about 2 minutes to decide to pre-emptively block threats / Meta. Their transparent and opportunistic scheme to commodify the fediverse and it's users will not be allowed to proceed.
We strongly encourage other instance administrators to do the same, given the grave threat they pose to the fediverse.
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I don’t understand this logic. Don’t we want Lemmy to be more mainstream and user friendly? Preemptively blocking any mainstream attempt to connect and bring in more users just sounds slightly petulant to me. Like I get meta = shitty company but I don’t get why we shouldn’t encourage more people joining the fediverse. And getting external help in growing it. And threads was the first mainstream olive branch that showed Lemmy, Kbin, and mastodon has legitimacy worth building infrastructure to join.
Idk blocking other people categorically from connecting just seems antithetical to the idea that it should be a decentralized system free to all to join.
But I’m new here, so maybe Im mistaken on the ethos of Lemmy.
We want new users, but not any random users at any costs.
I'd rather see the community growing slowly but organically than adding a bunch of random people with a toxic Instagram logic.
We don't have to be 10s of millions to enjoy it here either.
Blocking people and ideas that are hurtful to others and greedy is GOOD. Some ideas are bad and should be blocked
This is an excellent read on the idea.
https://extranewsfeed.com/tolerance-is-not-a-moral-precept-1af7007d6376
In a nutshell "Tolerance is not a moral absolute; it is a peace treaty."
I agree. But not everyone on that app are people who share greedy and hurtful ideas. Thats just extreme generalization imho.
It’s not about the people using it it’s about the person using them
Just feel’s antithetical to FOSS and decentralized social media. I came to Lemmy because a corporate douche was ruining Reddit because management and users had different ideas about what is and isn’t acceptable uses of that platform. Lemmy throwing up a big ol firewall because someone does it differently to them just isn’t what I expected to find here. Maybe that’s my fault. But Lemmy has a content and user drought. And I’m okay with that as long as it’s showing growth. I mean it takes a long time to build up content and communities.
But with beehaw defederating everyone they don’t like and the official Lemmy devs now basically doing the same thing to threads when the fediverse finally starts to go mainstream and attracting a wealth of new users just leaves a “throw the baby out with the bath water” impression on me.
But it seems like I’m the oddball one out here judging by the downvotes and overall negative responses from Lemmy-ers but it’s just my perspective.
The fediverse is a space built to escape these corporate profit machines. So you're ok with them invading that space?
Federating with Threads might help the fediverse grow, but Threads has the ability to become the largest instance within it. Then they'll be the ones to defederate from us. After that happens the fediverse will be worse off than if they never joined.
The fediverse is a threat to corporate run social media. Threads joining the fediverse is step one of their inside job to bring it down.
And now you want corporate douches to have a foothold here?! C'mon man, figure it out.
Exactly, I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here. Why did people even create accounts here if not to be free from corporate enshitification?!
Organic growth is good. Growth for the sake of growth makes no sense outside an environment where you need those metrics to convince investors.
I would also contend that it’s good for creating more content for people to consume. Lemmy desperately needs more content to be able to provide a compelling experience for most people to put up with the cumbersome nature and awkward aspects of the fediverse.