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[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (4 children)

If while acting in your own self-interest you knowingly, through action or inaction, allow others to come to harm, even indirectly, that is evil. In the same way that a character knowingly doing something that benefits others would arguably make them good. A chaotic neutral person may act on a whim or in self-interest the majority of the time, but I doubt they'd let their actions cause actual harm to others.

But trying to pigeonhole human behavior into a rigid matrix of alignments is inherently flawed, people are much more complex than that. Fortunately, DND allows the DM free reign to define that or allow it to be a grey area - in reality, "alignment" will always be fluid.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think this is a little over-broad. As written, the only way to be good is to stop all evil everywhere. Or am I missing something?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

No, it still requires something the person does or doesn't do (within reason) to influence or allow the evil act. If you see someone being mugged and you ignore it and keep walking when you have the power to help, even if just calling the police and walking away, then yes, that inaction makes you a bad person, IMO. But if a bad guy starts a war on the other side of the planet, you're not evil if you don't enlist and go fight the evil regime.

But like I said, it's all a grey area, there is no black and white good and evil in reality. It's rarely as simple as just "this is good, and this is evil" in real life.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

If while acting in your own self-interest you knowingly, through action or inaction, allow others to come to harm, even indirectly, that is evil.

I think most Americans buy products made via unethical labor practices, and which damage the environment, harming everyone.

Are you really making the argument that the vast majority of Americans are evil?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

As an American, I'm not not making that argument.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Why not? It's not a moral argument.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

There‘s also the distinction between allowing evil practices for your personal gain and allowing them to avoid harming yourself. The latter would be a neutral alignment.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago

Are you really making the argument that the vast majority of Americans are evil?

With regards to the D&D alignment chart? Sure. I don't know what kind of weird moral gotcha you're attempting here but there's not one to be found.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No. Neutral only cares about the cosmic or universal good. The welfare of others or ones self doesn't factor into it. Many druids are Neutral because the balance of nature (the natural order) is the motivation behind their actions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Neutral druids don't care about the welfare of others? Not even the other druids in their circle?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

If given a choice between upsetting the balance and saving a druid they'll maintain the balance. Healing a wound or something isn't moral decision.