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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

In those three cases, you're receiving a service (showing you the movie, cutting your hair and servicing your car), so yeah, you're stealing their work, which is arguably much worse than stealing objects.

In contrast, copying a copy of a movie or a game or whatever without removing the original or even a copy of it is not stealing.

And before you chime in with "but future income!", those profits are hypothetical, so even in the most uncharitable rational definition, you have stolen something that someone MIGHT have gotten.

Copying is not theft and you can't steal something that doesn't and might never exist.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The gray area where I live is that streaming is not piracy. I didn't pay for it, but I also didn't retain a copy.

Putlocker and Wootly were my go-to spots in college because I wouldn't get a piracy warning from my internet provider.

If there are better places these days, please let me know. I miss seeing new movies the same day they hit the digital marketplace

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've been using lookmovie2.to for a while and that seems to be pretty good.

If you're looking for everything piracy related then hit up the Free Media Heck Yeah wiki:

https://fmhy.pages.dev/beginners-guide/

Or for movies particularly:

https://fmhy.pages.dev/videopiracyguide/

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah once internet speeds got good enough, I stopped pirating movies and shows and started just watching them on streaming sites. The quality is usually slightly worse, but not enough for me to care that much. Stops your ISP from threatening you about piracy and makes it so you don't have to fill up your hard drive space.

Putlocker was my go to years back as well. But in recent years I've been using movies7 dot to. I don't know if Putlocker has changed at all, but I remember long ago it was a bit difficult to search for the content you wanted. More modern dedicated streaming sites like the one I mentioned are much easier to search.

There was another site that I had run into a recommendation for recently that might be better than the one I mentioned....but unfortunately I can't remember what that one is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://movies7.to/home is working really well for me. Thank you!

If you remember the other one, please post it!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

No prob and happy watching!

[–] MostlyHarmless -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So the entertainment you receive watching the movie isn't also a service?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No. The work that went into making the movie has already been paid for. The vast majority if not all of the profits from selling and renting the movie goes to the billionaire movie studios.

At the cinema, there's a projectionist showing you the movie and maintenance crew making sure you can do so in a pleasant environment, people working the concession stand etc.

Those are services. Owning the "rights" to something that someone else made isn't.

[–] MostlyHarmless -5 points 1 year ago

Who paid for it and have you paid them for the access what they now own?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm guessing you're in favor of counterfeiting currency, then?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope. I don't know about you, but I've never tried to pay for goods or services with a pirated copy of Shrek 2, much less one I was trying to pass off as the "real deal".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

After society collapses, pirated copies of Shrek 2 will be one of the only objects worth anything at all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Sounds better than the current state of affairs tbh 🤷