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Brave to end 'Strict' fingerprinting protection as it breaks websites
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You forgot built in crypto scams that can't be disabled.
Which one cant be disabled?
The affiliate link one certainly couldn't. It wasn't until people identified it and started complaining that the company had to backpedal.
And even for the scam stuff that can be disabled, why should it be downloaded, installed, and take up space on the hard drive to begin with? If it's so good, they can make it an add-on for people to optionally choose.
Well, the reason that is because brave wants you to use that, same way mozilla wants to you use their account services and the cloudflare dns that you can opt out of but can't uninstall unless you use a fork of firefox.
And also I don't know why you put emphasis on space usage when firefox uses more resources on websites than brave and chromium, I tested it back when using xfce4 and for 3 tabs and the total system mem usage was 1.24 GIB for firefox and 1 GiB for Chromium and Brave. And when I did that test chromium hadn't implemented a new feature that they added that moves inactive tabs to the disk.
I also don't think I'm gaining anything by replying to your comment after you didn't even bother replying when I told you all the issues and missing features that firefox has and instead focus on hating brave. I hope you're doing this because you hate the brave ceo and not because of some weird fanboyism with firefox lol.
Brave cryptocurrency crap = a Firefox account? Come on, at least compare apples to apples.
Because we were talking about how opting out of cryptocurrency crap doesn't fix the issues with it being installed by default.
You ignored the part about sending all the dns requests to cloudflare (the name of all the websites you visit), which sure, firefox is not as bad as brave on this. But I told you that already before, I said very clearly that when I mentioned that firefox is slightly better on this before in the other comments you didn't bother even replying to...
You're being disingenuous, another user said that it CAN'T be disabled to which I asked which can't? because you can, and now you're going on this weird goal post rant of it taking disk space while disabled ignoring all the useful features that brave has and all the issues and missing features of firefox lol.
edit: This reminds me of the rants people have against systemd because it is more bloated but ignore the fact that it is faster and easier to use lol.
I gave a concrete example: when Brave injected affiliate codes into the URL bar, there was no way to disable it.
Because it's irrelevant and gish gallop is not convincing to me
My dude, the other user said that the crypto scams can't be disabled, meaning right now in the present. Not that they couldn't be disabled. I asked which can't be right now in the present.
And now you're talking about something that happened 4 years ago and was fixed lol. I did not ask when did brave ever prevent you from disabling crypto scams, I asked right now lmao.
Once again, I hope you’re doing this because you hate the brave ceo and not because of some weird fanboyism with firefox lol. Because the more I look at your comments the more it looks like the later. You just pretty much said that you don't care about the issues with firefox by saying that it is irrelevant.
You are in a post about Brave. If you need to talk about anything but Brave to justify its behavior, the behavior is bad.
And just because Brave is technically currently not engaged in any scams that we know of, does not mean that it has a history of engaging in those scams, or that enabling them by default is good behavior on their part.
You might as well not reply if you will deflect this badly.
Hey firefox boy, My original reply was to someone saying just use firefox that ignored mentioning all the issues that firefox has with its default settings including the terrible default fingerprinting protection to start lmao which is on point with this post about brave fingerprinting.
Also you're going around telling people that the privacytest is not reliable way to compare browsers because of a brave employee which is fair but you don't bother to mention whether the test is actually lying or even propose an alternative test either.
I personally tested the coveryourtracks test by the EFF, and to my surprise brave scores better than librewolf, and this is using the default fingerprinting settings of brave, not the one that will be removed.
Would you consider any of the following examples lies?
https://gizmodo.com.au/2014/04/how-to-lie-with-data-visualization/
My dude, the privacytest website shows that librewolf is a better browser than brave, and when you told me (I think it was you lol) about the brave employee running it I thanked you for that info and began looking for alternatives.
I did the coveryourtracks test, which to my surprise brave scores better than librewolf:
https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/
https://imgur.com/WeGvgS5.png (LIbrewolf on the left, brave on the right)
So yeah, in my attempt to make a more fair comparison I only ended up with results that make brave a better browser lol.
There is nothing wrong with pointing out the conflict of interest, but that should be followed with at least some alternative being suggested if you don't want to bother into looking whether the data is false or misleading.
Edit: I will also state that I don't know if there is another conflict of interest going on in the EFF though.