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More than one-third of Americans believe Israel is committing genocide, poll shows
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 25 Jan 2024
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Fuck, that's so low.
Propaganda is a powerful tool.
way down at the bottom here::
opt in polling from web based "interview". So, probably. nobody even remotely tech savy (aka has an ad blocker) ever participated. but anyhow... here's what pew research has to say about the effects of interview mode:
ultimately, the legitimacy of the poll would depend on where they solicited their subjects in the poll. You're likely to get a far different answer with advertisements on Truth Social than you would with advertisements on, lets say, a palistinian-american subreddit. but that wasn't addressed in the report, so. we'll never really know.
Opt-in polling is so bad. It means you only get answers from people with strong opinions. They are polls where the results are shaped like a U instead of a bell curve so it rarely represents the actual 95 percentile.
I don't think it's opt-in in that way though. They have a pre-existing list of millions of pre-screened people and they're selecting a representative sample from that list. Fivethirtyeight ranks them fairly highly among other polls -- certainly high enough for this opinion poll to be considered accurate.
Fivethirtyeight only grades them on their ability to predict american election results. I don't think that's the same as advocating for their efficacy in producing leading public opinion polls.
You’re right, kinda. Issue polling is generally better than horse race polling and YouGov is no exception.
It's a serious issue when there's a clear political bias in the founders. They put more effort into steering the narrative than objectively reporting it.
Sure, and were there a clear bias your comment would have value.
If you haven't seen any clear bias then you probably have a close enough outlook to them to not notice. And that's fine, I don't require everyone to have the same opinion as me for their comments to have value.
My impression of bias is probably born out of the leading polls that rightwing media and thinktanks in the UK commission them to do. You can fairly argue that these polls are externally commissioned so their tenor is a product of their issuer not yougov. But the overall impression I got was that they could be readily depended on to produce misleading propaganda against labour when it wasn't being run by corporate technocrats.
It's still selecting from a list of people who have something to say, though.
As far as how accurately they represent broad swaths of america... well, that's a different matter. I would expect your average american to be far more luke warm to any given subject than respondents to a poll.
That's probably just a problem with polls though -- people who won't answer aren't included. But they're saying that 26-32% of Americans are "unsure," and that sounds pretty lukewarm. Their methodology does sound odd to me too but if it was flawed it would show in the election data, right? Elections are a brutal testing ground. Hundreds of surveys have been predictive and high quality on average.
Agreed on all of that.
I would have guessed 1/3 are “wtf! stop it”, a 1/3 are “bomb them harder!” And then there’s everyone else just doing their thing, going to work. Going to school.
Pretty easy now to see how Nazi Germany got away with it.
I know, right. These past 7 years have really made that clear.
They didn't even have social media back then to help spread misinformation. People were so quick to believe anything they heard someone say loudly.
I wonder how many people in that poll could locate Gaza on a map with no names.
... all I'm saying is that he had plenty of time to give that horse a name.
He was too busy looking at the trees and birds and rocks and 'things'. Comically lazy songwriting
That's my favorite line in the song because it's so absurd
“Indy, your father had the book. That’s why the Nazis were after him. But they never found the book! The book that contained The Map With No Names!”
“That’s what he sent to me, Ilsa— he sent me the book!”
[digs package out of pocket]
I couldn't, but I also couldn't find Israel... or Greece... or Idaho... I'm just really bad at geography in general.
If Jimmy Kimmel is any representation of reality, they would probably point to Australia.
My parents are in the other two thirds
By vote or volume?
no, most of us just know what a genocide actually is