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Hey again, /r/PICS!

We have another interesting development for you: /u/ModCodeofConduct still hasn't responded to our request for a public reply... but they have seen fit to threaten us:

This is a final warning for inaccurately labeling your community NSFW which is a violation of the Mod Code of Conduct rule 2. Your subreddit has not historically been considered NSFW nor would they under our current policies.

Please immediately correct the NSFW labeling on your subreddit. Failure to do so will result in action being taken on your moderator team by the end of this week. This means moderators involved in this activity will be removed from this mod team. Moderators may also be subject to additional actions, e.g., losing the ability to join mod teams in the future.

Lastly, if you suddenly begin to post, or approve content that features sexually explicit content to your community in order to justify the NSFW label, we will immediately remove and permanently suspend moderators who have participated in this action.

Needless to say, we responded as you would expect:

Please read and publicly respond to our message addressing this.

We are not in violation of the cited rule as it is written. Moreover, according to Reddit's listed policies, our subreddit is considered NSFW. If these policies are themselves in error, please correct their verbiage immediately. Otherwise, /r/PICS reverting to SFW would itself be in violation of those same policies.

Our team is currently discussing our actions in the meantime. Please permit us some time to reach a consensus.

Maddeningly, /u/ModCodeofConduct is telling us to go against Reddit's listed guidelines, which puts us in something of a pickle: If we follow their commands, we'll be in violation of the site-wide rules... but if adhere to said rules, they'll remove us. /r/InterestingAsFuck is still unmoderated (at the time of this writing), so we can reasonably assume that our removal would effectively kill this community.

Well, we don't want /r/PICS to die, so while we figure out how best to handle the situation (which includes waiting for a public, user-visible response from /u/ModCodeofConduct), we're going to be exploring new ways of ensuring that innocent, unsuspecting users are not presented with offensive content. One possible avenue would see you โ€“ yes, you, the upstanding Redditor reading this โ€“ having the ability to tag any post that you personally found offensive.

If you have any other ideas, please share them in the comments!

Sorry for the confusion, /r/PICS! We'll get back to you with more soon!

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[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I honestly don't think it'd be as successful. It could even fail. A lot (dare I say the majority?) of redditors loathe Meta. Even the ones who are staying at reddit. I don't think they'd take too kindly to Meta taking up their space.

For those users already on the Meta web, I'm not sure a reddit-like site will appeal much to them.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also: Threads is app-only, you can't access it on desktop. This means that Meta is probably interested on data mining its users. ~~(And that water is wet, I know.)~~ The Reddit userbase is however a bit tech-savvier than the Twitter one, and thus more likely to avoid data mining, even if/when using a service from Meta, making it overall less profitable.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Threads is app-only

I had no idea. What happens when you try to access it on desktop? That's crazy.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you access the site directly there's only a weird background and a QR code. You can read the tweets of public users through https://www.threads.net/@foobar (replace "foobar" with the username), but not interact with them.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

...lolwat. I am suddenly about 800% less worried about Threads siphoning action from the non-commercial part of the fediverse. It's not going to be a better user experience.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd still worry because even this sort of mildly abusive crap, like "you must access it through the platform that we want, as we want to milk your data!" can be compensated with enough advertisement/spam/shilling and a few user experience improvements.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a fair point. Shall we say... 650% less? I should probably have mentioned that I started at like 1000%, so I have not stopped worrying at any point, lol, I just went from "unreasonably terrified about losing this online home to a sinister corporate genius right after losing my last one to an incompetent clown" to "worried about a scenario that recognizes that Meta also exists in the real world, and has not become infinitely powerful just because I am feeling emotionally vulnerable."

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Make it 600% and we have a deal!

Serious now. Now that I understand your position (it makes you worry less, not stop worrying), I agree with you.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

600% it is, then. Agreement is excellent.