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What modern (gaming) laptops should be avoided for proprietary firmware or whitelists/gate keeping? Also posted Linux GPU telemetry data from Stable Diffusion (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I'm looking for a machine to run OpenGPT, Stable Diffusion, and Blender. I'm on the precipice of buying an Alienware w/ Ryzen 9 with a Radeon RX6850m. I've never needed anything near this level on Linux and I'm scared TBH. I'd much rather get a System76, but the equivalent hw has Nvidia and costs more than twice as much. While skimming for issues with current hardware, I saw something about a Legion laptop that could only use Intel RAID for the file system, and that this was a nightmare with generic distro kernels. What other stuff like this is happening with current laptop hardware?

I can barely manage a Gentoo install by following the handbook, understanding a third of it, and taking a few weeks to get sorted.

I spent all of yesterday afternoon sorting though all of the Linux hardware data in this stable diffusion telemetry: https://vladmandic.github.io/sd-extension-system-info/pages/benchmark.html

That total dataset has just over 5k total entries/699 valid Linux entries not including LSFW. It contains no entries for a Radeon RX6850m. I'm super nervous to buy a laptop that costs as much as my first car. I never want to run Windows again. What resources can I check to boost my confidence that this is going to work on Fedora WS?

If anyone is interested, the SD github dataset has the following numb entries/AMD card model:

- _3 RX 5700 XT /8GB
- _2 RX _580 __ /4GB
- _3 RX _580 __ /8GB
- 15 RX 6600 XT /8GB
- _1 RX 6650 XT /8GB
- 31 RX 6700 XT /12GB
- 10 RX 6750 XT /12GB
- 10 RX 6800 __ /16GB
- 19 RX 6800 XT /16GB
- 15 RX 6900 XT /16GB
- _9 RX 6950 XT /16GB
- _7 RX 7900 XT /20GB
- 39 RX 7900XTX /24GB
- _6 RX VEGA __ /8GB

Other common cards used in Linux and in this dataset are:

NVIDIA
- 39 A100-SXM4 /79GB
- 20 GTX-1070 /8GB
- 11 GTX-1080Ti /11GB
- 13 H100-PCIe /79GB
- 12 RTX-2070 /8GB
- 12 RTX-2080 Ti /22GB
- 31 RTX-3060 /12GB
- 16 RTX-3070 /8GB
- 10 RTX-3080 /10GB
- 39 RTX-3090 /24GB
- 11 RTX-3090 Ti /24GB
- 10 RTX-4070 Ti /12GB
- 87 RTX-4090 /24GB
- 27 RTX-A4000 /16GB
- 15 RTX-A5000 /24GB
TESLA
- 26 T4 /15GB
- 11 V100S-PCIE /32GB

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Buying a laptop that can run SD will cost you more than twice as much as an equivalent desktop. A desktop will also remain upgradeable for the next 10 years or so.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I'm partially disabled and stuck in a bed ~80% of my days. The ergonomics of a laptop on my custom bedside stand that can swing out of my way and 180° to use at my desk is ideal. I have a spare monitor on an arm I use when I really need it, but I hate having any regular keyboard or even being stuck with just a mouse. The touch pad, keyboard location, and screen make an ideal ergonomic situation. Like I have several mains outlets built into my stand, and the wiring is managed so that I don't get boxed in or tangled. I hate wireless stuff going dead. When adding the cost of the screen to a PC and all the peripherals, and then accessibility mounts, it costs more for me. My only option for a tower is two computers and remotely logging in from a laptop. It is an option but not one I like.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All good points. Fair enough. That said, don't be too quick to dismiss the remote desktop option. Not sure when you last tried, but these days with software like remmina, connecting remotely to a desktop (particularly one on your lan) is indistinguishable to sitting in front of it. Sure, you can't do things like play games at any useable framerate, but for something like Stable Diffusion I would expect it to be ideal.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was also kinda looking forward to connecting with an old friend over battlefield or counter strike as a bonus. That is the one constraint I will end up giving up first if I am forced to, but it gets damn lonely living like this. It will be 10 years of laying around all the time this coming February, I don't worry about the stuff I can't change, but I am way past due for having some real fun with friends. People are pooling together to help me out but it is like a one time and place kinda thing where I need to come up with the "thing" I need and be done with it. I'm grateful and all, I just need to make the best of it and not be too much of a burden. I have a max of $3k to play with but need to figure this out in the next few days. The lower I can keep the ask the better off I will be. The Alienware was $1450 and for a 12GBV card, that sounded great.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ah right, I see. Sounds like you're making the right choices in the context of your unfortunate situation. Yeah, playing games pretty much rules out a remote desktop setup. Sorry I don't have any more answers to your questions, but you're clearly asking the right ones.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

While it's not an immediate solution, Framework laptops are way ahead of the curve in terms of open sourcing their firmware, and being open and Linux-friendly in general. The Framework 16 should be out by the end of the year and will support an external gpu.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A solid desktop for stabile diffusion combined with a Chromebook good enough for a remote desktop client is significantly cheaper than a laptop capable of stable diffusion. Not counting future upgradability

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

That's not true. Do not listen to this person. They have no idea what they're talking about.