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Pokemon isn't about dogfighting. Pokemon is about six year olds finding a cool bug in the woods and making up a whole story about how it's a cool magic bug that can fly and shoot fire and stuff. Like someone said "all the descriptions of pokemon as having all these magic abilities or being cosmic gods is how small children make up imaginative stories about their dolls and toys." The correct frame isn't brutal dog fights. It children engaged in imaginative play.
Who would this speculative brutal dog-fighting game intended to make people feel bad about playing pokemon be for?
Spec ops has a clear audience. It's speaking to fps players for whom actual warfare has been completely abstracted out of the games they play. It's goal, more or less, is to tell players that the games they play are representations of real conflicts where real people suffer and die horribly.
The direct equivalent would be to make a children's game for children about catching bugs and frogs and then having all the bugs and frogs they catch die in an awful, emotionaly scaring fashion to, idk, convince kids that catching bugs is bad?
Fps games are an abstraction of warfare. Pokemon is an abstraction of walking through the woods picking up grasshoppers and putting them in a jar to show to your family members.
Personally, i don't think pokemon needs to be deconstructed or problematized, or that the idea even makes sense. Afaik pokemon doesn't desensitive people to the idea of putting frogs in your pocket to take home to show to your parents.
As six year olds me and my friends made the cool bugs we found fight each other to the death and pretended it was pokemon
Okay, good counter-point.
I guess I should clarify I'm not saying Pokemon made us do it, I'm sure kids have always tortured innocent creatures for funsies
I think there's a large element where kids haven't fully developed theory of mind and empathy, and don't really grasp that the animals have goals and sensations beyond what the kid imagines them having. Most kids stop hurting animals by, like, what, 8? 9? Idk, it's been a while since I was a kids.
Kids are pretty fucked up to be honest they do not have fully developed brains that process things in the same way adults do. Empathy is one of the things that definitely develops later in some kids rather than sooner.