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Hi all, I'm working on a Solarpunk world building project and I want to know your thoughts on one of the main features of my world. To preface all this and provide some context, my world is an alternate-history with a divergence point sometime in the 2020s. The divergence was caused by a vocal and technically-skilled group of Green-Anarchists that labelled themselves as "Dawn".

Dawn did a whole host of things to ween people off of Capitalism and into my Solarpunk world, I've gone into immense detail on this but I doubt it's relevancy to my question so I'll omit all those details, but there was a tipping-point in which Capitalism crumbled and gave into Dawn's Anarcho-Solar world.

To make sure the world stayed Solarpunk and to give people stress-free lifestyles, they developed 1 AI and 1 AGI. The AGI manages all Dawn technology, such as Dawn power generation, carbon-capture, a global hyper-loop etc and the AI makes sure no one tampers with the AGI (For those unaware, AGI is Artificial General Intelligence, so for example Skynet is an AGI since it can think and do many things, but ChatGPT is an AI because it can only do text).

Most people in my world wont ever have to think about the AI and AGI, it is taught in my education system to make people aware in case of catastrophe but it mostly manages itself and is monitored by the longest-serving Dawn members.

I simply want to know if machines like this can exist in Solarpunk with it remaining Solarpunk, and if people like the idea or not. If you want to know more about my world building then feel free to ask! Thanks for your time in advance :)

P.S. I should mention that AI and AGI are mirrored across 8 different instances and for the most part work independently of each other, meeting only when strictly necessary. This is to give even more defense against tampering and error.

Edit 1: Changed title from Overlord to Background, Overlord implies oppression which the system doesn't do.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Agreed, but that doesn't make it right for multi billion dollar companies to take artists work without their consent and turn it into a commercial AI.

At the very least those AIs would need to be released to the public domain if they were trained on a public body of works.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

that would come with the abolition of intellectual property

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

No, because AI runs in data centers and only offer an API.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Mistral-7B and Mixtral are 2 top-scoring LLMs that you can run on a personal computer. Admittedly a beefy one for the latter model.

Stable Diffusion generates very good image on personal computers.

All three are part of the hundreds of very good open source AI models that the industry is struggling to keep up with. OpenAI and MidJourney are the only one to manage to keep up the pace. Think about it: there are billions poured monthly into the industry and a bunch of researchers and hobbyists beat that on home PCs. Even mfing Google does not manage to keep up!

All these models can be run locally with no third-party between your prompt and the result.

And if you dont have a good GPU, you can join the AI Horde, that provides share computation to everyone.

90% of the non-tech news about AI talks about OpenAI but when you follow the tech news of the scene, the FOSS (Free Open Source Software) community is actually winning a very important battle without the general public being aware of the battles going on.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I was specifically referring to commercial AI, and besides that: those ones you mention are under quite restrictive licensing and can't really be considered in the public domain either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Apache 2.0 for the first 2 ones. It is essentially the same as public domain.

CreativeML Open RAIL-M for Stable Diffusion.

The Linux kernel is under more restrictive licenses.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I stand corrected on the first two, but Stable Diffusion's license is significantly more restrictive than the GPLv2.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I'm myself no fan of OpenRail, but I think it is more of a result of FOSS ceding to silly fearmongerers than a trojan to close down models.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

with no intellectual property, the code can just be exfiltrated