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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you want the good camera, you need to get the giant version of the phone.

If you want a phone that fits in human hands, you can only choose from subpar cameras.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean, that's a technical limitation not an anti-user move. Unless you want a phone that's all camera and no battery or speed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Do you think that the sensors in flagship phones take up significant space in the phone or are significantly larger than the sensors in smaller or cheaper phones?

I might agree that a smaller phone can't have like FIVE cameras, like some of the flagships, but they can certainly fit the same high-end sensors themselves.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm afraid I don't know. Perhaps I assumed wrongly. But having taken apart a couple of phones and knowing how tightly packed everything is, I expect the sensors, lenses, processing chips and whatever else of better cameras would be harder to fit into whether phones. Besides, isn't the high end nowadays often about the postprocessing taking advantage of the multiple cameras?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

The sensors themselves are generally standardized sizes, and the top end ones aren't much (if any) larger. They may have slightly larger supporting hardware to allow better electrical insulation to reduce sensor noise, but not significantly larger per sensor.

To the best of my knowledge, the post processing on flagship phones don't use multiple photos from different cameras, they use machine learning / AI, which can run on lower-end phones too, it just takes a bit longer. Which imo is totally fine because it's done by the photo app, not by the camera itself. The only thing that I'm not sure about is the "portrait mode" which seems to do a better job if I select portrait mode in the camera rather than apply a portrait effect in the photo app, so maybe it's using multiple sensors; but I've never seen a phone that had a better than 5% success rate at producing a portrait photo that wasn't absolute garbage, so that's a feature I'd be happy to sacrifice.

I don't need all the processing power, I don't need all the memory. I need a good OLED screen at a size I can fit into my hand, all day battery, a good amount of storage, and a top of the line camera sensor and lens.