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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And there are certain people where you have to micromanage them, because otherwise they're just go to git commit absolute fucking shit, and it's better to cut that off earlier via micromanagement, then allow it to pollute the repo.

Way to make sure they'll never improve. We have merge requests and four eye policy for this, no need for micromanagement. There's never a need for micromanagement, and if you feel like there is, your processes suck, which is your responsibility as a tech lead.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's really not enough.

Review stops people from polluting your repo with bad code and lets you give feedback.

It doesn't stop people from wasting time writing unfixably bad code that just needs to be thrown out.

Now of course what you can do is give people very small coding tasks and regularly review them before getting it into a shape where it can go in the main repo. But this is just micromanagement via git.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah, I'm glad for redprog that they haven't ran into this sort of thing, but sometimes you end up with people where you sort of have to sit on them a bit to get usable code that you even CAN code review out of them.

I even had one contractor who would, from the very start, refuse to do any work without a step-by-step list of implementation details as his 'project requirements.' First time I've ever had someone DEMAND me to micromanage them. I fucking hated it, I was spending nearly an hour and a half for each hour of billable work I was getting out of the guy. I can only assume some client in the past was wishy-washy about requirements with him, and I totally feel for him on that, but I personally feel he was taking it a bit far lol.

Only upside of that clusterfuck is that it gave me the political position to ensure that no more contractors were hired to work with my team without someone on my team being involved. The quality of our contractors went up rather significantly at that point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

If that person made it through the probation period under your supervision, that's still your fault. And if that person was there from the beginning, a senior in your team could still support them by teaching them good practices, showing them better options, etc. Or, as a last resort you could always assign them tasks that are more within their capabilities.

Micromanagement will never lead to people improving - quite the opposite in fact, they'll start to care less because there's always someone who prevents them doing mistakes.