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I can’t give more approval for this woman, she handled everything so well.

The backstory is that Cloudflare overhired and wanted to reduce headcount, rightsize, whatever terrible HR wording you choose. Instead of admitting that this was a layoff, which would grant her things like severance and unemployment - they tried to tell her that her performance was lacking.

And for most of us (myself included) we would angrily accept it and trash the company online. Not her, she goes directly against them. It of course doesn’t go anywhere because HR is a bunch of robots with no emotions that just parrot what papa company tells them to, but she still says what all of us wish we did.

(Warning, if you've ever been laid off this is a bit enraging and can bring up some feelings)

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 10 months ago (39 children)

That really isn't true, and you would know that if you were actually familiar with HR.

HR, for stuff like this, is just the messenger. Some exec told them to fire people, and gave them a directive on who to fire. The HR reps couldn't answer her questions because they likely don't know the answer.

Yes, the job of HR is to protect the company, but mostly that's protecting the company from the company breaking labor laws.

But, I'm sure I'll get downvoted to hell because the hive mind loves to shit on HR, which is exactly what the execs are wanting. They're scapegoats.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (14 children)

I worked in HR for a while and 80% of the job was telling managers/execs "you can't do that to an employee". It was defending the employee, arguing for better programs, planning events for employees/associates/team members. I paid for a Christmas event out of my own pocket one year because I was told there was no funding. I never got badmouthed or trashed by a manager. But after fighting everyday for associates it was really disheartening to see them say stuff like the person youre replying too. It's one reason people who aren't corporate shills get out of HR. You spend your day advocating for people and they turn around and spit in your face. After awhile you just ask yourself why am I turning myself inside out for these people who hate me?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (12 children)

I've literally never worked at a company where HR advocates for the workers. In 20 years, I haven't seen it happen a single time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The HR team at the company I work for absolutely advocates for me and my coworkers. Their job is to protect the company’s interests and the workers being empowered is in line with the company’s interests. A close friend and coworker had a PM try to deny her benefits (both PTO and insurance) and HR stepped in on her behalf and forced the company to give her what she was owed. The HR team is always available to answer questions about how insurance works and how to plan for retirement, plus they go out of their way to host a yearly Christmas party and other major events. The companies you worked at might have had bad HR teams, but that doesn’t mean every HR team is bad.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

HR is to prevent liability, not to protect or advocate for workers. Sometimes those lines end up crossing, but it’s not the job of HR.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

How about you let them tel you how HR is at the the place they work for since you have no idea who they are or where they work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nah I don’t need to. I work with HR all the time. I know what they’re about.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So tell me how the HR where they work at actually handled things since you’ve worked with them. Actually, first: state the name of the company they work at so I can check your work.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You’re not my boss, you can’t tell me what to do. I need my union rep present for this if you want to continue this discussion further.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

Exactly what I thought. Go sit down.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This totally goes against what people want to believe. It’s not being downvoted because it’s untrue, it’s being downvoted because the kids don’t like it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You can paint a pig and call it your lover if you want but I know a pig when I see one.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And you can use anecdotal references to paint the real world however you want it you look, but I know reality when I see it.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What the fuck are you even talking about? Go away dude.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

Your use of anecdotal evidence.

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