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OpenAI says it’s “impossible” to create useful AI models without copyrighted material (arstechnica.com)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Apparently, stealing other people's work to create product for money is now "fair use" as according to OpenAI because they are "innovating" (stealing). Yeah. Move fast and break things, huh?

"Because copyright today covers virtually every sort of human expression—including blogposts, photographs, forum posts, scraps of software code, and government documents—it would be impossible to train today’s leading AI models without using copyrighted materials," wrote OpenAI in the House of Lords submission.

OpenAI claimed that the authors in that lawsuit "misconceive[d] the scope of copyright, failing to take into account the limitations and exceptions (including fair use) that properly leave room for innovations like the large language models now at the forefront of artificial intelligence."

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[–] MagicShel 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Any company replacing humans with AI is going to regret it. AI just isn't that good and probably won't ever be, at least in it's current form. It's all an illusion and is destined to go the way of Bitcoin, which is to say it will shoot up meteorically and seem like the answer to all kinds of problems, and then the reality will sink in and it will slowly fade to obscurity and irrelevance. That doesn't help anyone affected today, of course.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I mostly disagree (especially on the long term), but hope you're right

[–] MagicShel 5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It's garbage for programming. A useful tool but not one that can be used by a non-expert. And I've already had to have a conversation with one of my coworkers when they tried to submit absolutely garbage code.

This isn't even the first attempt at a smart system that enables non-programmers to write code. They've all been garbage. So, too, will the next one be but every generation has to try it for themselves. AGI might have some potential some day, but that's a long long way off. Might as well be science fiction.

Other disciplines are affected differently, but I constantly play with image and text generation and they are all some flavor of garbage. There are some areas where AI can excel but they are mostly professional tools and not profession replacements.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

OpenAi, please generate your own source code but optimized and improved in all possible ways.

not how programming works, but tech illiterate people seem to think so

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

It was of no use whatsoever to programming or image generation or writing a few years ago. This thing has developed very quickly and will continue to. Give it 5 years and I think things will look very differently.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Yet it still is an incredible force multiplier for the ones that can leverage it effectively.

Yea you have to know how to code and proper coding standards to know what parts are garbage to change or not use, but for those who can it gives a significant competitive advantage.

Something like Tabby providing code autocomplete will set developers who can overcome its flaws apart.

I believe the same thing will happen with creative jobs. Artists who can leverage ai to make deeper and more complex works will leave ones who can’t in the dust.

And the whole copyright angle is a red herring made by already rich people who want to fight over money. Once people get used to the technology and start to understand how it can enhance their work, instead of replacing them, all of this moral panic over liberal arts graduates will die down.

Because honestly? The starving artist was always a trope, and the only money that will exchange hands here will be between the elites who certainly don’t need more.