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Gabriel Attal becomes France’s youngest and first openly gay prime minister | CNN (edition.cnn.com)

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French President Emmanuel Macron on Tuesday appointed 34-year-old Gabriel Attal to become the country’s next prime minister.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Regarding your self-identification as liberal I am not sure if we both mean the same thing. The definitions vary a lot depending where in the world you are. Where I live (Germany), liberalism is the "liberation" of the economy of any state control and has hardly anything to do with progressive politics. Leftism on the other hand is the politics of liberating people and distributing power to all people more equally. So liberalism and leftism are pretty different concepts resulting in different politics. One is peak capitalism exacerbating inequality, the other socialism trying to increase equality. And according to Wikipedia, neoliberalism is used to describe the historical reappearance of liberalism similar as is done with neo-fascism or neo-nazism. (Neo)liberalism is tightly connected to capitalism and thus also to conservatism and fascism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I mean market liberalism. You can read about it on Wikipedia. And have you checked out the article you linked? It doesn't have to do anything with neither conservative nor fascism. It does however support free market(capitalism), but I don't see how it is relevant to other ideologies you listed, it's actually progressive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I guess market liberalism is just what I described, no? The liberation of the economy. And sorry if I phrased the wiki-link confusingly, this was just about how the label "neo" gets slapped onto political ideologies that have a comeback. Just like in neoliberalism, neofascism and neonazism.

Later on I argued that neoliberalism goes hand in hand with conservatism and fascism because that's often been the case. Just look at US politics for example. The liberal party in Germany was made up of a large group of Nazis just after the war. Basically all over Europe or countries like Brazil and Argentina you can see the neoliberal politics of fascist parties and the fascist tendencies of neoliberal parties. Both work together to claw back at the democratic infrastructure and human rights. Sure, both also have different goals in the long run. But they frequently team up and support each other. And both are threats to democracy and human liberation.