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I would argue that most people, who do not have any experience with the medical field, do not know what it is or what is it for.
As a kid we were told to never use them, as an adult we were told to never use them. I understand what an AED is and how to use one but only because my current job trained me...I'm sure plenty of people don't even know that they're totally automatic.
I was an EMT years ago and my first instinct would still be to tell someone to call 911 and start CPR. Not to tell someone to find an AED
Instincts aside.
I assume actually using an AED is always better than CPR. Is that correct?
Paramedic here! They both serve different purposes. CPR keeps blood circulating to keep one’s brain and other important organs alive. An AED will detect the activity of someone’s heart and if it is a specific rhythm it will shock it. Cardiac arrest isn’t always a flat line, it can be the heart quivering or ineffectively pumping. This shock stops the heart briefly and then hopefully their heart will return to a normal rhythm.
In the simplest terms I can think of, someone in cardiac arrest needs both. Without CPR their brain will die. Without an AED they are less likely to come out of cardiac arrest and will just remain dead.
The AED is only going to fix an irregular rhythm (which is what the shock does) which would mean that you don't need CPR because the heart would then take on a more appropriate rhythm. If you can't shock someone, then you must have CPR. In both cases, applying the AED would be a good choice because it will tell you either way.
Who on earth told you never to use them? They only work if appropriate, and will call out instructions to you if not appropriate.
This is interesting, because when I was in high school, in the early 2010s, we were told in our health class how to use them, particularly the important bit that they're completely safe, they have vocal instructions telling you exactly what to do, and that they won't do anything if they don't detect a need, so you won't ever unintentionally harm someone.
I can't say I remember CPR training particularly well, but I do remember that AEDs are easy to use and absolutely the correct call if you need to help someone and they don't have a pulse.