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Or... Here's a thought. Kids DO want to work, they just want their time valued; to be respected and have a liveable wage.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

My dad used to work in manufacturing. He had a pension. He got yearly raises. He was able to switch positions to make more money and they paid for his training to be able to do that. Hell my grandma used to work at FUCKING KMART with full benefits including a pension!

Now people are paid fuckall, get fuckall for retirement, get maybe a 2% raise every few years, and companies want to invest $0 into keeping and training them. No shit no one is loyal and no one wants to deal with that shit. Go back to what you were doing before if that's how you want employees to act again.

For some reason my comment keeps showing up as a reply to this comment instead of a reply to the entire thread so let's just go with that lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

In the US a lot of manufacturers keep as many people as they can as temp workers and just cycle them in and out often enough to avoid having to pay benefits or offer anything other than substandard wages.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Your comment look just fine for me, in the right place.

As for your point, I guess people prefer to get cash and spend it themselves, rather than to trust companies to invest and spend it in their name. If people were to prefer smaller salaries but larger benefits, then situation would be different. One thing is still important though - medical insurance. Getting insurance yourself, especially before Obamacare was much more expensive than for business to buy it for you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

They were getting enough money to afford a house, kids, etc on a single salary AND a pensio

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Are you that stupid or being purposefully obtuse?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

They used to get cash and a pension. It wasn't an either-or thing.