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Lol. Who would want to? The kind of guy who would be satisfied with AI is not someone a woman with the smallest shred of respect would want to be with.
That's what these guys don't realize: being with them is thoroughly worse than being single.
This is so goddamn cruel. Are people who are simply just so lonely they need to express their feelings to an AI so undeserving of love that it would feel humiliating to get close to them? I don't think about women that way.
Yes.
Expressing feelings to an AI is not at all the same thing as considering it your girlfriend.
And it isn't about who is deserving of love. Everyone is. But 1. love doesn't have to be romantic to be valuable and 2. no matter how deserving sometimes is of receiving love, it's not an entitlement.
Someone incapable of recognizing that an AI isn't a real person and who expects a real person to fulfill a specific role is likely fundamentally abusive. No self-respecting woman should have to put up with controlling behavior just to make a man feel better about themselves. They need therapy. Not an AI girlfriend.
I've provided emotional support to my girlfriends when they needed it and I was able to provide it, and they did the same for me. If you only want to emotionally rely on a person who's listening to you because you're paying them, that's ok as a personal choice I guess, but the vast majority of mentally healthy people rely on friends, family and partners for emotional support. That aside, I feel like you have quite a twisted idea of the kind of person who uses a bot because they feel they don't have anyone who will listen to them.
Again, using a bot is vastly different from deluding yourself into thinking it's a substitute for a real relationship. You're arguing a straw man. I never said anyone who uses a bot isn't a good partner. I said anyone who thinks AI is a girlfriend isn't a good partner.
Do you know of anyone who has been in a non-abusive relationship who claims that an AI is a good partner?
AI can't be a partner. It's impossible. All AI can be is a reflection of yourself.
That's not what I asked, but ok.
Because what you asked is based on a faulty premise.
Literally you:
And so I asked you:
But you're even unable to discuss the most evident premises of what you're arguing for, and yet you run to accuse others of building up strawmans when you aren't even willing to take your own arguments seriously. I have no time to waste in trolls.
How about an ai therapist disguised as an ai GF?
I've heard of a guy who married a hologram app of Hatusne Miku, and it literally turned his life around having anything to talk to.
The loneliness epidemic is real, and as a former NEET, crippling social anxiety is a killer. Something that can put these vulnerable people in the position where they can function and get though the day is an objective good.
But AI is basically just talking to yourself. It won't really fix loneliness. All it can be is an illusion. A delusion. And I don't believe delusions can ever really be an objective good. Need something to talk to? Get a pet. Or a therapist until you can make a real friend.
It won't fix it, but it can mitigate it to an extent.
Pets are a expense and a responsibility, with conversations being one sided, so their less than ideal for shut ins who struggle to function to begin with.
Therapy could help, but is also an expense and still has the barrier of a direct interpersonal interaction.
Both of these also have the issue of intimacy being non-existent. An AI offers a chance for low stakes, human like interaction that can be intimate.
It doesn't mitigate it any more than feeding candy or alcohol to starving people mitigates their hunger. It might feel like it does for a time, but the underlying problem is only made worse.
It's not an intimate interaction any more than masturbating is intimate.
And I guarantee AI girlfriends are going to cost, too. Probably way more than therapy.
You're super closed minded. There's no need to be so mean... some people aren't good at socializing but it doesn't make them bad or disgusting people. If they can find comfort in this, what's the problem?
Pretty sure a lot of people that can find real partners will try this because it is a new experience. Aren't you curious? Don't you wonder if it is possible for YOU to fall in love with an AI? A lot of people who aren't closed-minded will probably accept the challenge.
I'm sure having an AI partner will be totally normal and socially acceptable in 50-100 years, specially if we give them bodies.
It's not mean to say that a woman shouldn't be romantically attached to someone who is incapable of relating to someone who is a real person, who actually thinks that an AI relationship is an acceptable replacement to messy human relationships. That's a serious mental problem that should be addressed in therapy, not made worse by plastic substitute for real human interaction.
It's like saying that people who are starving should be given candy to eat. Candy isn't going to give them what they really need. They need to start slow eating mild real food, and adjust their thought processes and habits. Then once they enjoy real food again, they will be ready for a 5-star experience.
No one is owed a romantic relationship, no matter how lonely they are. Expecting romance to ease your loneliness is a huge problem. AI is not going to solve their loneliness problem any more than candy can feed someone.
And for the record, I've been happily single for years. I know what I'm talking about.
Nothing is right or wrong, I think you have a very defined square of boundaries that you can't see beyond. If someone has social issues and can't find a person that matches with them, why is it bad for them to look for THEIR OWN happiness somewhere else?
Just let people enjoy their lives, there are no boundaries and no meaning, we're just here doing whatever the hell... Just do what you like and let others do what their like, as long as they don't hurt other people. There are people who date dolls or balloons, whatever man, let them do their thing, they aren't hurting anyone.
Imagine telling people from 150 years ago that today people get their sex changed through medical procedures.
I never said they shouldn't find their happiness wherever they want it. What I said was they won't be missed by women, because they wouldn't make good partners anyways.
You're getting awfully worked up about that straw man of yours. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a reason for that.
Go back and read your words. What I'm telling you is that you're being closed minded and unnecessarily mean to people. Also, that I'm sure that people who "women would miss" (whatever that means, as if there aren't weird women) will also use this because they have an open mind. It's fine if you want to live within the confinements of your own mental boundaries, but at least be respectful with people who don't have your same worldview.