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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

STOP DOOMER POSTING I know climate change is a frustrating problem to solve (to say the least) but holy shit this doomer posting makes it so hard to keep up the momentum necessary to solve it

It is NOT already too late

The way the climate change works, it won't be too late until we're all dead

Stop Doomer Posting

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Oh ok, so you acknowledge that humanity's footprint needs to be systematically drastically reduced for the next several generations until we reach a number this planet can sustainably support, and we need to push to end the capitalist global economy that requires infinite growth/metastasis on a finite world with finite resources immediately, in favor of an economic model that revolves around homeostasis/equilibrium, which will require necessary draconian lifestyle changes on all of our parts, right?

For the record, I'm more than willing to. I'm hilariously outnumbered though.

Now go ahead and talk about "baby steps" in the face of accelerating temperature increases. Baby steps are steps that could have made an impact that reverberated into today's consequences half a century ago when we knew about climate change but largely pretended we didn't.

You call it doomerism, but I just don't believe in self-deception to feel better.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

We have entered into the flickering phase of many earth systems. Being a realist isn't doomerism.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So if like 95% dies and all the production, transportation, unnecesary consumption etc, it will normalize and we get a do over?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

humanity might, yeah. while they would be starting from a less advanced position they would have access to the knowledge we earn over centuries so it wouldn't take as long to get back to where we are now, with the benefit of hindsight this time