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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

"[Nuclear] is costly, potentially dangerous, that there are problems dealing with and siting waste, and that future generations are left with a legacy they will not appreciate. ...uranium is itself a non-renewable resource, due to run out well before the end of this century. So even if it were to be cost-effective, safe, and harmless to future generations, nuclear energy is not a long-term solution to humanity’s energy problems."

Dobson, Andrew, (2000) GREEN POLITICAL THOUGHT, United Kingdom: Taylor and Francis (Books) Limited, pp.56

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Standard green party retoric, they don't see the forest for the trees.

If we had built nuclear power plants and closed coal, oil and gas power plants back in 2000 we would have several nations with a carbon free grid these days.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't think Dobson is out to mislead people from an academic point-of-view, so I take the uranium comment as being true. If it is the case, then I'm not sure how you had better insight into the future of nuclear power.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Read their arguments above. Also, is it this Andrew Dobson? An academic but hardly an expert on the nuclear physics.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

He is quoting another source (I haven't got the rest of the book to hand).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Oh, if only the reactors worked exclusively on uranium. Of course, I can quote Rosatom's articles, but unfortunately they are only in Russian. A closed fuel cycle was developed there back in 2015. If you want you can use Google translate: https://habr.com/ru/articles/388533/

P.S. It is very specific to get scientific knowledge from a book called GREEN POLITICAL THOUGHT

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Thanks, I'll check it out, Google Translate usually works well on links.

Edit: tried reading it, got about half of it. How long is this closed-loop supposed to last until it is all spent? I didn't see mentions of that, just about uranium no longer being an issue.

I quoted that as I'm currently reading through it as part of my master's and it seemed particularly relevant. Dobson looks at different aspects from different perspectives, not taking particular sides. The quote above is from the 'greens' perspective; Dobson mentions the possibility of future technological advances.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

At the beginning of the article, it is mentioned that only the use of uranium-238, which is now not used, will expand the reserves of nuclear fuel by about 200 times.

UPD: also in another article I read that not all uranium is completely destroyed in the reactor cycle, the rest turns into radioactive waste, which in a few years can be cooled and recycled into new rods for the reactor. in France, for example, they have been doing this for a long time. Here: https://habr.com/ru/articles/588877/