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Singularity | Artificial Intelligence (ai), Technology & Futurology

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This sublemmy is a place for sharing news and discussions about artificial intelligence, core developments of humanity's technology and societal changes that come with them. Basically futurology sublemmy centered around ai but not limited to ai only.

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  6. Memes are fine as long they are quality or/and can lead to serious on topic discussions. If we end up having too much memes we will do meme specific singularity sublemmy.
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How much people mistake AI for real intelligence.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Ai is intelligent though. And wtf is "real" intelligence? Are you saying that the technology we have is not "real"?

Edit: are you confusing intelligence for sentience? Because there's a huge difference between the two.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am not sure if you want to claim you love Jesus or not these practices are constitutional under the First Amendment.

Was that intelligence, what i just wrote there? Because I just tapped the left-most option on my spell checker. This is how ChatGPT and other LLMs work. They know a lot of words and know what word should come next. They do it a lot better than the android spell checker, but they do it just the same.

The hallucinations AI experiences are more of its users hallucinating that AI is Actually Intelligent. It is only Artificially Intelligent.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They know a lot of words and know what word should come next.

And to accurately predict intelligent conversations you need to develop intelligence yourself. (I mean the ai)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

He's using "real" as the opposite of "artificial"

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Real intelligence comes from real life experiences in reality which an AI is incapable of experiencing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's a terrible definition of intelligence, bruh

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's not a definition of intelligence.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because this is the actual definition:

The ability to acquire, understand, and use knowledge.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

The key here is that LLMs do not understand anything other than langauge. They are great at sounding like they know, but that's different than knowing.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Trying to define intelligence is like trying to explain the color blue to someone blind. I'm not trying to define intelligence, I'm answering the question "And wtf is “real” intelligence?"

Also, your given definition doesn't describe what intelligence is beyond the most simplest explanation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The explanation is simple because the concept of intelligence is simple.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But what actually constitutes intelligence is very complicated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence

"Intelligence has been defined in many ways: the capacity for abstraction, logic, understanding, self-awareness, learning, emotional knowledge, reasoning, planning, creativity, critical thinking, and problem-solving. More generally, it can be described as the ability to perceive or infer information, and to retain it as knowledge to be applied towards adaptive behaviors within an environment or context. Intelligence is most often studied in humans but has also been observed in both non-human animals and in plants despite controversy as to whether some of these forms of life exhibit intelligence.[1][2] Intelligence in computers or other machines is called artificial intelligence."

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Our current ai's are already capable of all of those things you listed lmao

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Alright, you're trolling, this is brand new account and you only interacted with this post so far. You are ignoring god damn proven science in this day and age, this says enough about you if you are serious... Just because you decide that gravity doesn't exist doesn't mean that's the case. I taken screenshots of this conversation, I will have a good laugh when I find them in a few years.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

You asked the question "And wtf is “real” intelligence?" and I answered, that's all.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't even know what you're talking about. I think that you're talking about ai's world model which GPT4 was already proven to have.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

GPT4 has no life experiences.