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The original article is better than this hot take on it, although it seems to make a lot of assumptions as well:
The article admits there were likely militants under the hospital, which I believe would make it a legal target. I'm not sure why it would have to be a, "command node," which is what this article seems to focus on.
Now this is the most interesting claim the article makes, that the footage IDF released does not prove that the tunnel networks they showed footage of connects to Al-Shifa. It still might, but the video does not conclusively show that. US intelligence sources agree with IDF's assessment, but they aren't sharing their sources so I suppose the credibility of this depends on one's perceived credibility of US and Israeli intelligence agencies.
So they have evidence they just don't have the full backstory of how the guns got there. I'm not sure how they would expect the IDF to establish this or why this diminishes the evidence.
Oh it doesn't count because they brought hostages there a little while before the bombing? Please.
This seems pretty damning, despite Hamas' denial. I have seen no evidence that this confession was obtained by illegal means.
All of this together certainly makes it seem like the hospital was used by militants, despite the article's skepticism. They just gloss over this and focus on anti-IDF conjecture.
You sure are giving IDF/the original source a lot of leeway, especially their expansive track record of flagrant lying and dehumanizing propoghanda.
And ultimately you argued for a hospital to be bombed under the idea of a "legal target".
They basically said "Someone was there once. Bomb the fuck out of those kids."
I'm guessing it was more of a "this is justifiably a military target, let's maximize collateral damage."
Only if you're so reductionist that you remove all relevant context, nuance, and ignore most of the evidence.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/05/gaza-palestinians-tortured-summarily-killed-by-hamas-forces-during-2014-conflict/
Amnesty International concluded facilities in the hospital grounds were used for extrajudicial murders and torture by Hamas. Not a justification for the actions, but the hospital seemed to have some overlap or use by hamas.