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Analysts have warned Windows 10 end of life plans could spark a global torrent of e-waste, with millions of devices expected to be scrapped in the coming years. 

Research from Canalys shows that up to 240 million PCs globally could be terminated as a result of the shift over to Windows 11, raising critical questions about device refreshes and the responsibility of vendors to extend life cycles.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If only you could put linux on them so they get security updates and give those to poor kids. Shame that is not possible. /s

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (6 children)

It's not possible. I need software that runs only on windows, so as much as I'd like to I can never switch. The only thing I can do is maybe do a vm passthrough thing - except I don't want to spend a couple of grand on a new pc. People have jobs, real jobs, we have to work instead of fucking around distro hopping. A whole bunch of people could possibly switch to linux, but it's still such a major pain in the ass that nobody will do it unless they are forced into it. Expect hacked win 11 installs

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

While I agree with you that some software isn't capable of running on Linux (even through wine), there is another aspect that's important to remember. Want and choice. The software that doesnt run on Linux is developed only for Windows because of market share. If more people used Linux, and more importantly, demanded Linux support, more software would support it. I WANT to use Linux instead of windows, so in order for that to become a reality, I push companies to support it and I talk to people and encourage trying Linux out. Can everyone make the switch? No, but some can; and the more that do the more Linux will be supported.

Your voice and opinion and choice matters. Don't let a big corporation steal that from you. Even if you want to use Windows, you should still have the choice.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The "give those to poor kids" part was such a foreign concept you failed to even acknowledge the words existence. wow.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I have no idea what you're about here

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

He’s commenting on how you missed the entire point of his comment regarding how older systems can have another OS put on it and given to an underprivileged person, specifically a kid. If you’re an exceptional case who has to find a way to use old equipment with Windows, fine, there are already ways to do that, but if you actually don’t understand his original comment or his reply in context of his original comment, then you’re pretty stupid.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

So,

  1. you're called an exception, not a rule. Just because YOU need windows doesn't mean literally no one would have have use for ewaste revived through Linux.

  2. I run programs made exclusively for windows on Linux using wine daily. And

  3. maybe you like to fuck around distro hopping when you use Linux, the rest of us just fucking use our computers like a normal person. (See, I can be condescending too).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I'm called the vast majority. I can't use my software on wine because it's not supported by my vendors. It's nice that you use things, but try working in architecture, civil engineering and construction and let me know how that works for you.

Let me be even more condescending - I use things I need to do my work. I don't jerk off to linux or windows. If there was an option to move to mac I would do it. That's using a thing like normal person, you use thing get money

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

I disagree, the vast majority just need a browser, your use case may be quite common, but definitely not the majority.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Wow, I didn’t know poor children were allowed to be civil engineers, that’s so progressive! /s

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wine works pretty well for a large percentage of Windows programs

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wine is not a practical solution for your average user.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

It is actually. On distros that come pre installed with wine, running windows programs is as easy as clicking on the exe just like on windows and if it's not pre installed than its easy to do.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

give those to poor kids

People have jobs, real jobs, we have to work

If you are a kid forced to have a job, blink twice and CPS will be dispatched (hopefully).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ok I'll bite. What's the software you "need"?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Oh I don't "need" it at all, like I don't "need" my job, electricity or running water. Autodesk shit, some other things. Imagine - it doesn't work on anything except windows. And it's like that for 70 or 80 percent of my colleagues (there are things for apple). And let me tell you, Autodesk barely want to make thigs work on windows, they hate their customers for real