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[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (4 children)

get local tailors to make clothing if you can afford it

Anyone who can afford that is not doing it to be sustainable and humanitarian and I think you know that.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Wtf are you talking about? I'm not super rich, but i get some things done with a local tailor and one of the biggest reasons is to support local business and avoid overseas slave labour

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

"Some things." So not all of your clothes. In other words, you also can't afford to wear all cruelty-free clothing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I look forward to Christmas every year so I can finally get new socks. You might not be super rich, but you're certainly not poor, either.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

You really don't know what choices someone is making. If you replace clothing about once a decade and don't own much it's not very expensive.

High up front sure but maybe someone is eating cheap bean and rice based food, maybe they don't buy alcohol, maybe they don't own a car, maybe they buy used stuff rather than new whatever. There are loads of ways for many people to squirrel away the funds to get an item made here and there. Yeah obvs if you're destitute it's impossible and right now with economies going to shit way more people are losing money each week but prior there were choices people could usually make.

Yes it involves giving up other things and it can be stressful and difficult but that's expected. Slavery makes things cheap in dollars and high in human misery.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That really is a 'where you live' thing. When I lived in SEA I could buy a button down shirt you could wear to work for about $5, going to a tailor and having one bespoke was $6 in cotton, or $15 in silk. Wool was actually more expensive since there was no domestic production.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Does SEA mean Seattle or South East Asia?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Sorry, southeast Asia

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Depends on where you live. In European cities it will be expensive to get new things tailored, but there will be shops only for changes and repairs, which will be cheaper, for example.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Yes, but we're talking about buying clothes, not getting them repaired.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That really depends. If you buy a tshirt it was probably made paying someone like 5c a day.

If you find someone who makes clothing, just a normal arse person not someone catering to the rich, they can probably make a basic tshirt to your rough size in about 3 hours or so. If they're paid a reasonable fee that's going to be in my country for example 200 aud or so factoring in material. A sweat shop T would be 20 to 50, or even 80 in a high end store so it's really not much more expensive.

Wear it till it has holes in it so say 5 to 10 years and it's really not that expensive.

More complicated clothing gets more expensive but a basic wardrobe is something like 3 Ts, 3 long sleave tops, 2 heavy pants, 2 light pants/skirts etc. you don't need to buy it all at once. Sometimes you need more clothes than that, e.g. you're a woman and you work customer facing but most people have waaaaay more clothes than they need.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

but a basic wardrobe is something like 3 Ts, 3 long sleave tops, 2 heavy pants, 2 light pants/skirts etc. you don’t need to buy it all at once.

No, you just have to do laundry more than once a week. Most people who don't have their own washer or dryer don't have time for that.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

What are you doing where you can't wear pants for a week or a top for 3 days?

Hard labour you don't wear new clothes you wear your old tattered stuff and hand me downs/second hand etc, or toughened workwear.

It sounds like you want to find a reason to do nothing rather than do what you can. Like if you want to avoid enslaving others and animal cruelty your lifestyle will have to change because your lifestyle is based on exploitation. If you don't want to change then get comfortable with slavery, idk what else to say.

Rather than shoot down things, why don't you say how much time you're willing to put into it and how much money? and what resources you have?