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My comrad in crisis, no one in Canada can afford houses anymore. High chance they are just impoverished renters.
2/3 of Canadians own their own homes.
Hmm, that actually tracks with what I see in real life, but it's pretty impressive. I guess that's also why we have massive household debt.
We have massive household debt because we are livestock farmed for wealth by the plutocrats. They get us in debt early and keep us in debt our whole lives to that they can extract the maximum amount of interest from us until we die and our estates can be picked over for anything that's left to pay our final debts.
You can look at it that way. They do advertise and play a lot of mind tricks. It's also possible to be so poor you don't even qualify to go into debt, though.
The plutocrats (as well as more moderately wealthy people) might argue that it's always agreed to freely by the debtor, so it's not their fault. I'd maintain free will doesn't exist at a collective level, and they fucking know it. The entire concept of marketing is predicated on that.
Still more empty homes than homeless.
Source?
Not the quoted person but a quick research:
Apparently around 1.3 million homes were vacant in Canada (2021 data)
I couldn't find anything more recent.
"[...]it is estimated that an average of 235,000 people in Canada experience one of the many types of homelessness each year."
https://financialpost.com/real-estate/busting-the-myth-of-canadas-million-or-more-vacant-homes
"Murtaza Haider is a professor of Real Estate Management at Ryerson University. Stephen Moranis is a real estate industry veteran."
oh yes very unbiased people right here
Edit: Seriously though, after reading the article this doesn't bust any myth at all. The only "source" cited is the census map and they don't even take their time to transform that data into something that's proving their point. That's just a piece of opinion, it isn't proving anything.
...Many of them ought to be considered vacant homes. So how close does that get us to 235,000?
See I didn't respond because I knew this is exactly what you were going to do. It's always the same debate pervert internet sophistry.
Nobody ever asks for a source because they're intellectually curious, it's always just "this right wing source disagrees with your facts"
Please refrain from bad faith behavior. I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you weren't just a troll and you shattered it.
means you're boring. Your childish insults are boring. Your banal political commentary is boring. Your sanctimonious, "That's why I couldn't be bothered to reply" while looking down your nose is boring.
That isnt just Canada bud. The cost of housing in the US far out paces incomes. At least anywhere that people want to live or where there are jobs.