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You know this is by no means a common vehicle right? I’ve never seen one outside of a few pictures only found on anti-car posts. F350s are even rare to see on the roads, F150s are more common than grass and F250s are a daily sight unfortunately.
This isn't even a 350
This is a heavily modified F650(750?). They took a commercial truck and slapped a pickup truck body on it. It's comically useless, and costs 150 thousand dollars.
Here's a video where a guy reviews it.
https://youtu.be/JrHDeSMvnt4?si=bNlcS9prXg3J_Q0W
150k is about how much you'll pay for a RAM here in Australia - and dickheads are still buying them.
Ah, the worst of the American trucks.
For that much money I could clean out an entire used truck lot, and have enough left over for another entire used truck lot, and I would have like 30 Dodge rams. So enough to make one last most of the rest of the year.
We call them Dodge Deweys (DUIs) because of that factoid that the Ram 2500 has the most drivers of any truck brand/model with a DUI under their belt.
Literally. Rams are horrible
I try so hard to convince myself it’s selection bias, but Ford Ranger drivers really do feel like the absolute worst fucking drivers on the roads in Australia. Like I don’t see a single one that doesn’t drive like an absolute fucking loser.
These American and American-style shitheaps are a fucking scourge
While there's probably some correlation, the Ranger is also the best selling car in Australia - so there's lots of them.
Recently I was in a friend's car and couldn't believe how badly he drove; too fast into corners then not managing to stay in his lane, limit breaking to every traffic light then stopping over the line, speeding, weaving, etc and he drives a Volvo! I figured that at least I'd probably be safe when he crashed.
Yea I know, I didn’t say it was a 350 lol
What, it exists?! I thought it was some digital creation inspired by a 350, already an awful huge truck.
Edit: had to look at Ford's website. The biggest pickup I could find there is an F450 Super Duty. There's both an F650 and 750 as trucks without beds ("straight frame"). Those actual trucks.
Yeah, it's not a stock truck. You can't go to any dealership and buy that truck. You have to buy a commercial truck and take it to a company to turn it in to that monstrosity.
Your average half ton pickup is 70-80k now.
You actually probably see a lot of F250s and F350s, but they are used as commercial vehicles, often with stuff bolted to the bed (or in the case of the F350, sold without a bed and have aftermarket attachments).
Many tow trucks are F350s/F450s (and bigger for towing bigger vehicles), ambulances are often F550s, bucket trucks are F650s/F750s, etc.
For people who actually do a lot of hauling trailers and such, an F-250 is very sensible. Half ton pickups often have drivetrain failures when asked to haul heavy loads on the regular.
A full set of mobile mechanic tools is too much weight for half ton truck, without materials. Bigger pickups make sense for people who work trades, especially heavy ones.
Many of such tradespeople don’t have a second vehicle, especially if they bought the truck themselves (self-employed) or if their company provides and doesn’t care if they do their life stuff with it (basically free gas if you don’t abuse the privilege.)
F250 is super common for construction fleet vehicles.
Yea that’s why I said they’re a daily sight. The picture in OP is a f650 though and those are very uncommon
F150s are for the weekender dads that occasionally need to haul something around. F250s and 350s are for people that actually work (usually) this monstrosity is bullshit, anyone that genuinely needs that much truck buys an actual semi or something.
Living full time in an RV I purchased a 2500 (F-250 equivalent). I have put as much if not more miles on the thing than the “working man” (sitting about 22,000 for this year). I do agree it is a monster of a vehicle and I do try to only use it for the towing of the RV. Any chance I get I’m riding my bike. A semi for this situation is overkill and an absurd price difference compared to the 2500.
The Econoline (and maybe the Transit) seems to be the vehicle of choice for people who actually work.
Vans don't work for a lot of people that need a pick up bed.
I'm Dutch. I've never seen an f150 in the flesh (metal?). I know one guy with a large pickup, he has two very tall kids and has his own business. My parents had what was considered a large car, a Citroën Berlingo.
Suv's are becoming much more common though, and they are already often too big for our roads.
F150s are as ubiquitous in the US as Renault Clios or equivalent for you
There is bigger, the f750 exists, is also fully customizable for commercial needs like dump truck duty or heavy hauling not needing a Peterbilt semi. There is a use case for these or they wouldn’t be made.
They absolutely are not commuter/weekend warrior vehicles like people use the f150 for and you’ll probably never see the 650 or 750 and recognize it
It’s common where I live.
The f650 is not common anywhere fuck off with that blatant lie
I don't know how common it is, I don't want to blurt a wrong opinion about it.
That said, a friend of mine went to the US to work as a construction manager for a few months and he was given an F750 for the time he was there by the construction company. It was kitted with a small box that was too high to actually use and really they only used it to posture about how important their position was.
I understand this might not be common at all, I'm not saying it is, I just want you to understand how this doesn't happen anywhere else at all.
It's just that, it is such a crazy thing to exist that it just boggles the mind. It's excessive even for most commercial applications.
If I see three in an hour drive, that seems common enough to me. Go kiss your mother with that sewer mouth.
You clearly can’t tell the difference between truck models