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Threads seems to be beginning to test ActivityPub federation, and since Kbin can be used for microblogging, this affects kbin.social. What are your thoughts on federating or defederating with them?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Raise your hand if you think it would be okay for Meta to put your kBin/Lemmy content along side THEIR ads for revenue.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I mean fuck, how many of us left Reddit for their bullshit? Inviting Meta into the mix is an even worse proposition.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is nothing like what I left Reddit over.

Nobody is "inviting" Meta in, ActivityPub is an open protocol. They can come in without any invitation. Being closed is what I left Reddit over. Closing the Fediverse to Meta would be more like the bullshit I left Reddit over.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

is close for different reason

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

why do people support federation with big company that has bad track record

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sure. How does it harm me if they do that? I won't even see it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ah the ole "Why should I care?"

You're right, you won't see it. After federation (when the bandwidth bill comes due) and kbin is shut down due to costs, will you care then?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

If kbin.social can't handle the bandwidth of federating with Meta then it will defederate. But I don't run kbin.social, that's up to the people who run it. The question is "how do we feel about federating?" As in we the users.

And that's who I'm responding to here. A user who was concerned about the content that they posted being seen on Meta's servers. They're not worried about bandwidth costs, they're just worried about some kind of bad magic happening when Meta users see their posts in the context of Meta's instance.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

I mean, any Fediverse instance can already do this. Some already do. Nobody seems to have a problem with their content MissKey.io's ads right now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

I would be... Anything I put on here, I know kbin.social will be sending out to thousands of other instances, and what those instances do with my content and how it's displayed is completely out of my control. That's just the nature of ActivityPub, and by posting here I think I have to be okay with that. There are already ActivityPub services that run ads, so it's not unique to Threads either.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Because Threads presents an opportunity to grow the community on ActivityPub services, and because the Fediverse presents the opportunity to extend the community I'm involved in that's on Threads right now. My hope is that if that group respects what the Fediverse offers, they will also start sharing the podcast on PeerTube