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I think Idris' bang notation for performing effects in a do-block is pretty, it could look like this:
Today, you'd have to come up with a new variable name or figure out the right combinator names:
But unfortunately there are more complicated cases:
In a strict language with built-in short-circuiting logical operations the
getLine
would never be performed, but in Haskell||
is just a normal function that happens to be lazy in its second argument. The only reasonable way to implement it seems to be to treat every function as if it was strict and always perform thegetLine
:Do you think this is confusing? Or is the bang notation useful enough that you can live with these odd cases? I'm not very happy with this naive desugaring.
@jaror I never liked it; I think if you can't be bothered to assign a name, point-free combinators are what you should be using.
I also think it gets much uglier or complicated (or both) once you have arguments (unlike getLine, but like most subroutines).
That said, I wouldn't take it away from anyone. I think the desugaring is unsurprising and, at least in a strict language, semantics preserving.
I haven't really spent the necessary time to think clearly through the non-strict case.
@jaror