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It mimics real life really well, then, I don't see the problem.
Most normal people don't fly airplanes either, but that's not a requirement for Flight Simulator to mimic real life well too.
You're sounding like a 90's christian parent worried that video games are going to turn their kids violent.
Which reminded me, I should have mentioned this earlier, but you used the word "depraved" in the first post; I am not comfortable with you using that christofacist language.
Well, you do sound like one. Condemning a piece of media for its "depravity" sounds like it came straight out of a Republican's playbook. As for perspective, I mean, if it means "things with a sexual tone that I consider morally bad", then it is a problem regardless of culture.
Edit: maybe I am being too exclusionary, all religious fundamentalism is bad, not just christian.
Holy shit, you're literally talking like a conservative, let's drop the religion talk completely and just call this what it is: conservatism. And wth is that list? Am I supposed to agree that games like The Witcher, DDLC, Resident Evil and L4D should be banned for "depravity"? You're literally proving my point.
In fact, China is a great example of why that talk about "depravity" is nothing more than another tool for oppression: https://www.npr.org/2021/09/02/1033687586/china-ban-effeminate-men-tv-official-morality
I don't hate China like your average westerner, there are many things there that I like, the unfortunate conservatism in the government is not one of them.
And men that are not "masculine" enough for your standards?
Wrong.
Is that "strong anti western culture" the same one that Russia is using to label LGBTQ groups as terrorism?
Not yet? They are already raiding gay clubs and arresting people there. And try as you may, you cannot justify Russia going after their LGBT population as a whole.
This is not a problem of "different cultures", this is a problem of a law being used to oppress a minority, vulnerable group.
For fuck's sake, this is just like what Rússia is doing. Good job on being part of the oppression of the LGBT population.
I am not American, you fool. My country is worried that Venezuela will try to play Israel and Gaza with Guiana right now.
We expect those to evolve... you know, "progress", that thing we progressists like. Not wanting your culture to evolve, specially on social issues, is textbook conservatism.
Ah yes, you support starting war for oil, while criticizing imperialism. It can't get any more ironic than this.
I am well aware of American interested here on their "backyard", but starting a "civil war" between latinamerican countries isn't how we're going to defeat imperialism. You are also defending the annexation of 70 percent of a country. You are also forgetting that Venezuela doesn't have nukes, and the US has zero reason to not get involved, with boots on the field if needed be. At the end of the day I'm not worried that Maduro will succeed, at all, but I still don't support war for oil. If you like war so much, maybe ask Xi to start one with Japan and South Korea, prime examples of American imperialism in Asia.
Yes, I am. I defend Venezuela when it comes to the bloody sanctions the Americans put on them, I defend that the US should stay the heck away from their oil (if you know the story of Hugo Chavez as president, that's a prime example of America messing with another country to take their oil), but I don't defend their own quest to take another country's oil.
The Arab world did try to free Palestine with strong military operations. But the Americans had the Zionists' back and the rest is history.
My point is that they did try military action and it didn't work out for them. What is happening in Gaza today isn't consequence of them not fighting back, because they did fight. And they weren't wrong for trying to defend Palestine against colonialism.
No they're not, they want to annex the whole fucking territory, and the idea that a country like Venezuela can "protect" another country by buying a war with the US is ridiculous, which is why it probably won't happen. If there is any way to stop the Americans to get that oil, that one isn't it.
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You didn't even finish reading that paragraph I wrote, so I will do the same and not read your replies anymore 🙃
What are gamergater takes?
Games are the newest bugaboo in a long line of media 'boos. Movies, tv shows, books (really). Its extremely tiring to see this same pattern play out
Yea why aren't there more video games about following the speed limit in your 10 year old car then filling out spreadsheets for 8 hours.
Where the fuck did all these boomer ass takes come from.
Treat defender.
Ah yes the old classic "video games make people bad" argument from like way back in the 90s 😂
Social conservativism is actually much MUCH worse for society
Jack Thompson was right. The videogames made by the west encourage people to become antisocial freaks. All the treat defenders in the thread can cope and seethe all they want, people are shaped by the media they consume.
Okay and....? I don't play Western games, JRPGs is my shit. I don't even know why this is a big fucking deal it's fucking videogames.
You're 100% right and it's downright disturbing that you're downvoted. Depraved
Imperialist Cultural Offensive:
"In analyzing a society and deriving its laws of motion, Marxism proceeds by studying its economic base, then also its superstructure (politics and culture) both in their particularity and in their interaction. The class that controls the economic base and appropriates the surplus product is the determinant factor in the long run, producing its own framework of political rule and dominant cultural precepts.
As Marx aptly said in The German Ideology:
The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas, i.e. the class which is the ruling material force of society, is at the same time its ruling intellectual force. The class which has the means of material production at its disposal, has control at the same time over the means of mental production, so that thereby, generally speaking, the ideas of those who lack the means of mental production are subject to it. … Insofar, therefore, as they rule as a class and determine the extent and compass of an epoch, it is self-evident that they do this in its whole range, hence among other things rule also as thinkers, as producers of ideas, and regulate the production and distribution of the ideas of their age: thus their ideas are the ruling ideas of the epoch.
However, the superstructure can become crucial in intensifying contradictions within the economic base or in breaking deadlocks towards resolution and general advance. Thus to be a cultural activist, one must understand the underlying contradictions and define one´s class stand. On whose side are we? As cultural activists, we stand with and for the people. We expose and criticize oppression and obscurantism in any or many aspects of this vast mental, communication, and behavioral complex that we call culture, and espouse revolutionary changes in society in that same space.
In the past two or three decades now, the world’s countries and peoples have been facing a renewed cultural offensive by the foremost imperialist powers. This offensive advances in parallel with their economic and political-military offensives. This cultural offensive is led by US imperialism. It is the “soft power” aspect of the US ambition for full spectrum dominance in the economic, political, military, social and other spheres, including outer space."
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Man what are you even fucking talking about, all that cause I said you made a dumb argument that was debunked like 30 years ago. Go off though 👍🏿
The liberal argument may have been debunked but the Marxist critique hasn't.