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[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I’m not really sure what to say about Nothing as a company, after two generations of devices so far.

The price isn’t right, the quality isn’t really there, the entire back panel is a massive gimmick, and even the 2 is still missing features, which I won’t buy a phone in 2023 without.

What’s worse, is that they’re trying to stand out quickly by offering potentially groundbreaking things, while in reality they’re built on something fundamentally broken, like Sunbird.

The forecast is not clear

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What are the missing features you can't live without?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In the case of the Nothing 2, specifically, the lack of a high IP rating is a huge dealbreaker. The latter will be personal preference, but I did not like the camera performance. That can be improved with software upgrades, but when we spend this much money on a device, I just don't want to drop money on a promise of something

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I can understand the camera part. It's one of the reasons I was done with budget phones.

What's a high IP rating? What does IP stand for in this context? I'm assuming it's neither internet protocol nor intellectual property...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Liquid and dust resistance. NP2 is only rated at IP54, which is definitely not ideal.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

In this case it's "Ingress Protection" rating - as in how well it prevents water and dust from getting inside the phone when exposed.

Edit: since I'm on hold and bored, here's the Bard description of the rating system

The Ingress Protection (IP) rating system is a two-digit code that tells you how well an enclosure is protected against dust and water. Here's a quick breakdown:

  • First digit: This is for solid objects, like dust, fingers, or tools. It goes from 0 (no protection) to 6 (dust-tight).
  • Second digit: This is for water, like splashes, rain, or immersion. It goes from 0 (no protection) to 9 (protected against high-pressure water jets).

So, an IP67 rating means the device is dust-tight and can withstand being submerged in water for a short time.

Here are some real-world examples:

  • IP44: Splashproof phone, suitable for light rain or spills.
  • IP65: Dustproof camera, good for outdoor use but not submersion.
  • IPX7: Waterproof smartwatch, can survive a dunk in the pool.
  • IP68: Rugged phone, can handle being underwater for extended periods.

Remember, IP ratings are just guidelines. Always check the manufacturer's instructions for specific usage advice.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

You said that perfectly! Everything I was thinking. 💪👍😎

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do you own one? i bought the phone 1 to use as a work phone and its been pretty stellar tbh. Not something to use as a daily, I'd prefer a flagship for that but the phone has been really good to me

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Honestly the fact that you explicitly say you wouldn’t use it as a daily driver, when that’s all most people have… is a terrible review.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ehhh no i'm just not the right consumer.

The phone is great for someone who wants a phone that still feels premium while being willing to sacrifice some of the frills like a slightly better camera, higher water resistance, etc

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

It’s not just water resistance, it’s not even dust proof which is extremely easy to achieve in this day and age.